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UPDATE (September 8, 2016): The following article was published by CatholicVote.org during the 2016 primary process. Considering the multitude of excellent pro-life, pro-family candidates in the race at that time, CV firmly stated, for the reasons below, that Trump was not the best candidate to defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Now, faced with a choice between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, CV continues to oppose Hillary Clinton for her radical, anti-Catholic views on abortion, marriage, religious freedom, education, and family. Catholics should not cast a vote for Hillary Clinton. Although we remain unsure of Trump’s dedication to Catholic values and have not officially endorsed him for President, we do believe Catholics can in good conscience vote for Donald Trump. 


CV cannot remain on the sidelines any longer.

While we are not officially endorsing a candidate at this time, we believe it is important to share some critical thoughts on the race, or at least on one candidate in particular.

As Catholics, we are called to participate in the democratic process. The Church does not endorse candidates for public office. That job rests with us, the laity. No candidate is perfect, and no simple checklist is sufficient. Prudence is a necessity. Some candidates ought to be disqualified from receiving the support of a Catholic voter. Others must be weighed in light of the moral principles given to us by our Church.  

We have asked for your feedback on multiple occasions. Thousands of CV members have written. We’ve read them all. In addition we follow the daily news, analysis, polling, and have crafted our strategy for 2016.

And so today we begin with the elephant in the room.

Should Catholics support Donald Trump?  No.

We have sifted through the most popular arguments in defense of Trump and listed them below along with our own take.  Here they are:

1. “Trump is a leader we can trust”

While we share much of the frustration over the failure of the GOP to make significant progress, we are reminded of Republicans’ once oft-quoted criticism of President Bill Clinton: character matters.

Donald J. Trump left his first wife and married his mistress, only to leave her a few years later for another mistress. Reportedly he left his second wife by leaking the news to a NY newspaper and left the headline on the bed for his wife to find. In his book, The Art of the Deal, Trump bragged about having sex with many women, including some who were married. He has appeared on the cover of Playboy Magazine with a model wearing only his tuxedo jacket. He has mocked the disability of a NY Times reporter. He belittled John McCain for being a prisoner of war. His casino in Atlantic City was the first in the country to open up a strip club. His Twitter account is a running barrage of insults, lies, and personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with him. And did we mention he famously cheats at golf? Now who does that remind you of?

Now ask yourself: does this man have the character becoming of the President of the United States?

2. “Trump can’t be bought because he is rich!”

Trump is a salesmen, and salesmen don’t buy, they sell. So he won’t be “bought.” Instead he will sell out everyone and anyone when it benefits him, as he has his entire career. He was a liberal democrat, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care, pro-government bailouts, and a financial backer and friend of Hillary Clinton until he decided to run as a Republican last summer. He is the definition of an opportunist with no guiding principles.

3. “Trump is a leader who will get things done”

Trump markets himself as an effective leader who will get things done simply by making “smart deals.” He refuses to explain precisely how he intends to deliver results, and more often than not, promises to use force or work around or outside the law. Such a leader mirrors what we currently see in the White House. It would be incredibly harmful to our system of government, which is limited by our Constitution — even if we like the policy outcome. We must be a nation of laws. For Trump, it is all about power. For a Christian, the presidency should be about service.

4. “Trump is a successful businessman who will make great deals”

If you believe the headlines, you would assume everything Donald Trump touches turns to gold.  Not so. Trump has only demonstrated an ability to make deals that benefit him personally. Four times he bailed on his own casinos to shield himself from their impending bankruptcies. And then there is Trump Magazine, Trump Airlines, Trump Steaks/Steakhouse, Trump Vodka, and most famously Trump University, to name only a few — all bankrupt or closed, and massive failures.  “Losers” as Trump is fond of saying.

He has constantly cozied up to big government to trample the little guy, either by abusing private property rights, or selling out small contractors and vendors, many of whom lost their life savings. Just ask elderly widow Vera Coking, whom Trump attempted to displace via eminent domain laws to make way for a limousine parking lot for his New Jersey casino — the same casino he put into bankruptcy. Vera stood tall against the politically-connected billionaire Trump for years in court, enduring his practice of belittling personal attacks. She eventually won and called Trump a “maggot, a cockroach, and a crumb.”

5. “Trump will end illegal immigration”

Trump has pledged to build a massive wall on our southern border and to make Mexico pay for it. Meanwhile he has promised to deport 11 million+ illegals, without explaining how, then plans to allow them all back in legally according to criteria he has yet to fully explain.  

We agree illegal immigration is a problem that must be solved. Trump’s solution is delusional, strikes us as xenophobic — and truthfully, will never happen. If anything, Trump’s demagoguery on immigration showcases the emptiness of many of his promises. As President Obama has learned, American presidents don’t dictate laws. The Senate and House would have to pass any change of this magnitude, and such a solution has little to no chance of being approved. Border security and immigration enforcement are realistic fixes. Rounding up 11 million+ people and sending them back to Mexico is not practical or realistic, let alone humane. Those who rightfully want to solve the problem of illegal immigration deserve more than crowd pleasing platitudes. And it’s certainly worth noting that Donald Trump criticized Mitt Romney for being too harsh on immigration back in 2012. This is just another issue where Donald Trump had a very recent and rather convenient conversion.

Several other presidential candidates have outlined more realistic policies to deal with problem. And that’s what real leaders do. They outline solutions and build consensus. Hyperbole and demagoguery are tools of salesmen (see above) out for your money or your vote. Trump’s lack of detail reminds us of another famous politician who proclaimed: “we have to pass the bill before you can see what’s in it.”

6. “Trump will fight the Establishment!”

This defense of Trump is somewhat rich, given the irony that Trump himself has boasted of playing the game, paying off politicians and enriching himself from the very system he now purports to reform. Case in point: in the past week a growing number of so-called “establishment Republicans” have warmed to supporting Trump, people like Bob Dole and Trent Lott — including establishment Republicans in Iowa like Gov. Terry Branstad. Why? Because they believe, rightly in our view, that Trump doesn’t have any principles at the end of the day. He’s someone who will wheel and deal — and you and I will be stuck with the bill.

Electing Donald Trump would send the pro-life movement back to the 1990s, when the Republican Party wanted to run away from defending the unborn. In fact, Trump recommended his own sister, Maryanne Trump Berry, for the Supreme Court. She’s the federal judge who overturned New Jersey’s ban on grisly partial-birth abortions. The next President may choose as many as three or more new justices. Trump’s suggestion of his pro-abortion sister as an example ought to worry anyone who cares about the Court. And let’s not forget he once said Oprah would make a great Vice President. Enough said.

7. “Trump is one of us”

Trump’s political conversions have all happened at very convenient times. As recently as 2000, Trump was firmly “pro-choice,” even refusing to oppose partial birth abortion! He was in favor of gay civil unions. He is open, even now, to subsidizing abortion giant Planned Parenthood with our tax dollars. He considers gay marriage a settled issue and has offered no plan to protect religious freedom. He is pro-universal health care, supported the stimulus package and government bailouts, supported gun control and a host of radical positions. Trump is like many Democrats we know. He is a political opportunist.

Conclusion

Trump is right about something — it is time for a change. We do need to shake things up and make America great again. And his awakening of working class voters who are often sidelined by terrible policy and poor leadership is a lesson every Republican must take seriously or they will lose in November.

But the power to change does not require a fear mongering business mogul, appealing to our worst fears instead of our best hopes.

With other good candidates in the race, we encourage our members to look beyond Trump.

This is an historic opportunity to win back the White House with someone we can be proud to have as President.

Iowa, New Hampshire… we’re looking to you to lead the way.

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    • You are NOT telling the truth. LOTS OF LONGTERM PROLIFE CATHOLIC LEADERS HAVE ENDORSED TRUMP.

      Take your manipulating BS somewhere else.

      This kind of drivel is what is killing out country.

      VIVA EL CRISTO REY!!!

      • Sorry. But no one can dictate to me. Trump is prolife and he is my choice. And the main reason is Because Trump will be the only person who will stop the abortions from happening by the tax payer dollar and I’m for that as a big starter. The other candidates can say they are prolife but they have done nothing in the past and will do nothing if they get in office.

        • Check out Ted Cruz and read what he has done in court, siding with the right to life. His book, A Time for Truth is excellent in helping to know for whom to vote. If we belong to The Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit will prompt the believer in making a Godly decision.

          • AMEN, the two comments above you are way off the beaten trail. Trump is telling them what they want to hear and they get suckered in. Both Cruz and Rubio are TRUE prolife candidates that have never wavered on the issue. The write up is truthful and we Catholics need to pray and decern with the right information and then vote for the the one who hold the most moral values. If its in their heart and soul they will govern accordingly. The sad part of it is a lot of Catholics like the ones above that get star struck by hope and change and vote for whomever makes them feel good rather than contemplating the truths about what the candidates have done in their lives in order to recognize the moral fabric of the person. And then to use this to make an insightful decision on who to vote for.

          • Donald J. Trump is a TRUE AMERICAN !!!!!!!! here are our other choices !!! If You want to be owned by the government, Hillary, Bernie and Cruz all are socialists and support the New World Order. Trump Will be the only one we can Vote in to stop them, Educate yourselves on CRUZ and his wife
            * Heidi Cruz has been employed by Goldman Sachs since 2005. She is currently on leave.
            * Heidi Cruz is a member of the leftist council on foreign relations, advocates of world Government and a New World Order.
            * Ted Cruz was George Bush’s top policy advisor.
            * Ted Cruz was in the federal Trade Commission.
            * Ted and Heidi met when they were both Bush staffers.
            * Cruz advised on legal affairs and Heidi on economic policy for the bush administration.
            * Heidi was director for the Western Hemisphere on the national security council under Condoleeza Rice.
            * Heidi served as deputy U.S. Trade Representative to USTR head,
            Robert Zoellick, working on China trade policy.
            * Ted Cruz’ campaign chairman, Chad Sweet, is a former CIA officer.
            He also worked for Goldman Sachs.
            * Ted Cruz voted for cloture on TPA, (trans pacific partnership agreement)
            fast track trade authority, removing the hurdle of concern for further amendment, and clearing the way for passage!
            It didn’t have to be recorded, so nobody knew this.
            He voted NOT to require approval of congress before other countries could join, including China.
            * Cruz has openly stated that he will NOT use a deportation force, and will continue to use the failed ICE system, where an illegal has to commit a crime first, then be caught.
            * Cruz belongs to the radical Christian sect of 7 mountains dominionism, that seeks to place their members in control of our culture and create a NWO though the domination of business, government, media, arts & entertainment, education, family, and religion. He is the appointed messiah/savior of their group.
            * Ted Cruz has only been a citizen for about 19 months! He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014 so he could run for president.
            There are also other reasons that he is not constitutionally eligible, including the fact that both of his parents were NOT U.S. Citizens when he was born, only his mother was.
            Wise up, he’s not who you think he is
            he has always been establishment, he is bought and paid by the banks. He did not vote to audit the Federal Reserve, he most certainly is establishment.
            This was copied from an original political pos

          • As history has proven, wives of the president have much to say in private. Heidi Cruz worked for over 5 years under Bush on the North American Union……THAT MEANS NO MORE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Cruz’ buddy is Henry Kissinger, a Bilderberg Member and a frustrated president. Do the American People need another liar in the oval office?

        • In Trump’s own words, “I am very Pro-Choice.” He advocated for partial birth abortion. He wants to put his sister in as a Supreme Court Justice who is a HUGE advocate for partial birth abortion. So how exactly is he the most pro-life candidate?

          • Do the American People need another liar in the oval office? Consider not voting for any of the pre-selected candidates who are puppets for the ruling elite. Consider a write in vote…in unity with the Masses……We can beat the evil doers at their selfish, evil games. Are you mad enough yet?

        • Glad to hear abortion is such a big concern for you! I know you want someone who has taken action on the issue so check out Rand Paul. He introduced bills to congress to defund planned parenthood and to define life at the point of conception (making abortion illegal). Of all candidates in the race he probably has the best track record of being pro life.Trump’s record on abortion is a little less solid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOlXidHXRE

        • Okay Judith–fair enough; but can someone make you at least think, and to ask questions about a candidate?? Why are people who support Trump so quick to go on the attack? If you aren’t asking these questions yourself, then you are a part of the problem , and not a part of the solution.

        • http://prolifeprofiles.com/donald-trump-on-abortion-not-pro-life

          He is NOT Prolife.

          Even when he claims to be, he is for the “exceptions” which means he has no coherent prolife philosophy at all.

          How can any Christian support a man whose campaign tactics rest on hatefulness, pettiness and obvious bullying?

          And his irresponsibility with his personal money in busines (he has been a recipient of corporate welfare numerous times) make him an undesireable leader.

        • I think you forgot how the US government works, with its check & balance system — no president can stop taxpayer-funded abortions without Congress submitting a bill to the President. The President has the power of casting an Executive Order, but it’s limited, and in some cases can be turned over by Congress. We need to lobby our Representatives and Senators. Besides, Trump changes stripes as it suits him. He’s not sincerely pro-life, he’s just bombastic.

          • Josephine Harkay on

            Congress has voted to stop funding Planned Parenthood, yet President Obama vetoed it. Trump may not be sincerely pro-life, although he made promises, but we are 100% sure that Clinton and the Democrat platform supports abortion. I am telling myself that I am voting for the Republican platform which is very much pro-life.

        • I agree with you on your support for Pro Life principles but I don’t believe Trump could or even, would do it. He has not shown himself to follow through on his extravagant promises either to his many wives or his employees.

          He may be a strong capable business man but with the greed and ugliness in Washington right now we need someone with some honor and principles.

          • Josephine Harkay on

            Hillary and potential first gentleman Bill Clinton paragons of honor and principles? How about the former as secretary of state being “extremely careless” with sensitive emails, and the latter as president a lech in the Oval Office? You must be kidding! – I am not saying I admire Trump either, but he is the lesser of two evils, in my opinion.

        • paraphrase: “Sorry but I am closed-minded, my mind is made up, no one can teach me anything because I know everything. “Trump is prolife” is a lie. Look up what he said about planned parenthood on the wed after super tuesday.

        • You replied in January……it’s now May 5th, 2016….do you still believe Trump is pro-life since he has now gone from “I am very pro life, nobody is more pro life than me…I am against abortion across the board and PP should not be funded” TO “I am pro life except for babies of rape, incest and mother’s health (which we all know means mental health as in ‘I don’t feel like being a mother today’) & PP should remain open…ya know…to abort the innocent victims of rape, incest and mother’s health”. PP wasn’t afraid of Trump…they were scared to death of Ted Cruz…the only candidate running who was 100% pro-life across the board…protect life at every stage. He even fought his butt off to have them defunded and will continue to do so. Trump is NOT pro-life.

        • This is a pretty old article but the meaning and the truth herein is just as correct as when written. For the majority of his public life, Trump was a liberal Democrat. He was pro-death, pro-adultery, pro-racist (even when liberal!), living, and having lived, a public life so outside of the realms of Catholic moral teachings that one might think that he was morally anti-Catholic.

          Trump has bragged about the sheer number of court cases that he has going at any one time. I think he currently has 300+ cases at some point in the judicial system. I question his business acumen – his biggest “artistic deals” have bankrupted his investors – Trump has been smart enough not to invest heavily, if at all, in his big ventures.

          That’s the way he runs his charity foundation, too. It’s a hustler’s game, an egoist’s tool – he has others contribute to the Trump Foundation and then generously contributes that money in the name of the Trump Foundation to charities (and political campaigns) so that nothing comes from his pocket yet he gets the glory of being a generous benefactor.

          Trump isn’t going to do a thing to keep taxpayers from funding abortions. Oh, he’s not going to admit to being pro-death (okay, he’s only said that he’s pro-choice previously; which I call pro-death) but we’ve had many small victories under Obama and we’re much more likely to gain far more soldiers and victories under the virulently more pro-death Clinton. Under Clinton, everyone will be aware of every little pro-death moves she makes because we’ll be expecting them.

          There are a number of reasons that I came to the conclusion that voting for any presidential candidate would be a violation of my conscience and a grave sin. Now, I’m going to vote for Clinton. First, it was her husband that was the subject of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” and now it’s she that is the target. “Lacking transparency” for almost 20 years is something she will not be able to get away with as president.

          Trump doesn’t need to be transparent – people don’t care that when he lies, he lies big. People don’t care when he brags of his adulterous affairs or of the many women that he writes that he’s bedded. It doesn’t matter that Trump has a history of immoral behavior – read his bestsellers and he’ll teach you that immorality makes you a winner.

          And that’s good enough for Trump. To win.

          And it’s likely that Trump will win.

          And that makes my Catholic Christian heart weep.

        • If trump becomes president abortions will be the least of your worries. He’s best buds with Putin, he has no problem filing bankruptcy after good people did work for him and now won’t get paid. He calls this good business ( for him). Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. He’s a racist a bigot and a narcissistic liar. His temperament will surely get us into a war, but if all you care about is taking away a woman’s right to chose then go ahead and vote for him. When members of his own party know he is a danger to our country that should scare the hell out of everyone who believes his lies. I’ll include you in my prayers.

      • If your thought process is any reflection of the electorate in general, we are in big trouble. Trump will not be the leader that we need – he does not have the moral character to lead this country out of the serious trouble that we are and will be facing in the coming months.

      • Donald Trump is saying what you want to hear. He has no solutions except that he is the richest and smartest man in the world. I hope you really look at him. Is He a WOLF in sheep’s clothing Obama made a lot of promise and now believes he is a king and he can do what ever he wants too. Trump and Obama have the same personalities. I really fear that our country is doomed if he gets in office.

        • Completely agree! The establishment GOP, the mainstream media and the Obama/Clinton collusion. The establishment GOP absolutely will not back a real conservative, or one not approved by the CFR. We must look to God as individuals, not to the “leadership” of this country.

        • My fellow Evangelicals are passing this article around- there are many fellow Christians that are worried people can’t see what a wolf in sheep’s clothing that is Trump. I’ve not seen so many people blindly following someone so obviously the “spoiled school bully”.

          There is no perfect candidate- but this man is not a good person. He is a user, a carpet bagger, a panderer- granted he’s probably one of the best. But what good will that do once he starts throwing tantrums? Will he stay up all night frantically Twittering like a raving mad tween?

          Speaking of impressionable young girls, would you leave your beautiful teenage daughter alone with him? Would you leave your homely teenage daughter alone with him?

        • I agree with you and Helen Sabin. If Trump, Hillary or Bernie win, we are in trouble.
          We need to look at other less extreme candidates…you know, the ones that bore us and the MSM.

      • I’m sorry, but I have not seen Trump as the kind of man who will respect Christ as King (Cristo Rey). Trump’s attitude about faith – as about other things – concerns me greatly. I would be very sad if he were presented to the world as the face of American conservatism.

      • I say YES for TRUMP. Rubio and Cruz are nothing but career politicians. They will say anything to get and keep a political job. I don’t believe this a legitimate Catholic website.

      • I AGREE, THE CATHOLIC VOTE SEEMS TWO WAY “SHAME ON YOU” IF SOMEBODY IS CATHOLIC NEVER WILL SUPPORT “DEMOCRATS” GOD DO NOT ACCEPT ABORTION. I HOPLE SOME OF THEM READ THE FOLLOWING..TO ALL COMMMENTATORS: THERE IS A FIGHT BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL (READ BOOK “THE ARMAGEDDON” BY DICK MORRIS) IT SEEMS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO RECOVER WHAT WE HAVE LOST IS THROUGH GOD, HOW? PRAYING, PRAYING, AND PRAYING …MAY GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY. THANKS

      • How so? These are serious issues– it seems to me Trump himself is making all of the jokes–and bad ones at that. What he has done successfully, is blinded a part of the American electorate who is angry and frustrated. Voting requires thought and people looking deeply into issues which affect their lives.

    • To bad the Catholic Church did not spend this much energy on trying to stop the election of our current president for the last two terms who is doing NOTHING about , well I do not have all night to list them, it is so scary for the country,. You are taking down a citzen like Mr. Trump who does not need the presidency but is sick about what has been happening to this country. I am a catholic and ashamed of the Catholic Church not doing more and this is your cause, you are moving more and more of us out!!

      • Nobody is moving anyone out. People choose to leave. The Church has an interest in eternal salvation of souls. Opinions yes, principles yes, guidelines yes. They laity is part of the church, they should be more involved and quit passing the buck onto the priests, bishops, cardinal, and the pope… We are a community and they give us the sacraments. Its our duty to fight the good fight with the grace we receive from the Lord.

      • I disagree about being “ashamed of the Catholic Church not doing more”. Should the church side with/against anyone running, the current president has and executive order in place for the IRS to impose such stiff taxes and fines, you will then criticize the Church for not knowing to stay out of it. An opinion was stated, to present a challenge is great, but to attack the Church over what an organization of the same faith offers if is entirely out of line.

        Maybe, we should look for ways to align all Christians for the elections–not just president, but all…

        • So your belief is the Catholic bows to government to save us from taxes. With that thought process Jesus could have saved himself from being crucified by not claiming to be the Son of God. We as Catholic Christians are obligated to follow and spread truth. We need to live our lives like Jesus Christ did.

      • The Catholic Vote organization is not affiliated with the Church. It’s made up of citizens who are Catholic. It’s illegal for the Catholic Church to express any political views — if its representatives (the clergy and religious) endorse a candidate or political position, the IRS rescinds its tax exempt status.

        • In other words, the government controls the church, dictates what it can say. Seems to me that God should be in control of the church.

        • Which is exactly why the American Catholic Church placed itself in chains when it capitulated to the Federal Government in exchange for tax exemption. When will you all understand that there is one and only one thing that happens when you get in bed with the Federal Government of these United States: It ain’t pretty or pain free!!

      • I agree with Jan. I am a practicing Catholic and if you are supporting the current Democratic candidates, our country will
        never recuperate from the mess of Obama. We don’t need more politicians in Washington. Donald Trump will get things done.

          • This is a phony website, the Catholic Church will not tell anyone who to vote for, nor should it. I am a practicing Catholic and would not even consider voting for Trump, Rubio or Cruz. I also do not agree with the comments made here against Obama. I think he is a wonderful person, he cares about people and has proven it many times. He is the best president we have had in many years. This website spreads hatred.

      • Mary Lou Carter on

        I agree with why hasn’t the Catholic Church been more outspoken about the present White House occupier and how his policies are so unconstitutional when it comes to religious liberties. Why aren’t our Bishops at the White House door when a religious owner of a business is forced to go against his religious beliefs and have a wedding for a gay couple on their property, or a bakery has to make a cake for a gay couple. After all, all citizens deserve to live by their faith. Reference the widow Vera Coking who won the eminent domain law and did not sell her property. Well I read Mr. Trump offered her 2 million for it, but she held out and didn’t sell. What was left out was a couple years later she died and then the property was sold for something like $50 or maybe $250 thousand. So it seems Mr. Trump was being very generous with his offer.

      • I AGREE 100%.
        TO ALL COMMMENTATORS: THERE IS A FIGHT BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL (READ BOOK “THE ARMAGEDDON” BY DICK MORRIS) IT SEEMS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO RECOVER WHAT WE HAVE LOST IS THROUGH GOD, HOW? PRAYING, PRAYING, AND PRAYING …MAY GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY. THANKS

    • Thisis Notacatholicweb on

      Agreed. A very unprofessional and biased article. How about they list Trumps positive characteristics, like when he saved a woman’s farm from being foreclosed, or his hard work ethic? How about how he did a good job raising his children?

      He also never defended partial birth abortion, and on his website you can find all the details about his positions and policies such as his immigration reform. This website is dishonest.

      • This website is extremely honest. If you’re Catholic, or even if you’re not, you need to know that the ends NEVER justify the means. Trump has publicly committed mortal sin, and continues to do so. None of the good he does has merit before the Judgement Seat — the only one that matters.

        • Don’t forget that prostitutes and sinners will make it into heaven ahead of Pharisees. I don’t think Trump’s a perfect man, but he’s done more good than people realize. The question is whether he’s truthful or not – and nothing I’ve read, and I read a lot, has convinced me he is in fact trying to deceive the American people. I think he means what he says. It’s a matter of prudential judgment, something on which people of good faith can disagree. Right now I plan to vote for Trump, because I find him a heck of a lot more trustworthy and capable than anybody else running for office.

        • By listing the word “CATHOLIC” in your organization, you’re intentionally misleading people into thinking you’re representing the catholic church with these views. Nice try, but Catholics don’t do this !
          Separation of Church and State. I think if your going to discuss politics ..
          stick with the state side of the fence.

          • Separation of Church and state was condemned in Pius IX’s Syllabus of Errors. If you’re really a Catholic you ought to have known this. The Church is above the state and the state should take its guidance from the Church as it was during the Ages of Faith. As for Mr. Trump it seems that Catholics ought to vote for him to prevent the far greater evil of full out Bolshevism being imposed by the vile witch Clinton.

      • Mommapurgethedems on

        Vote to keep “That Woman” out of the White House even if it means Trump is in. Disturbing that this so called Catholic vote site is encouraging us not to vote for whom we please as long as the person is pro-life…and meets other so called Catholic vote criteria. How in the heck does Kimberly know the state of Mr. Trumps soul (or whether he was in a state of mortal sin)? Does “Judge not lest ye be judged…” mean anything to the posters here?! God help us all!

    • As a Catholic, I find your demand of Catholics not to vote for Trump disturbing. How dare you tell someone how to vote. I will be voting for Trump because I feel he is the only person who can make America a great place again.
      You make me ashamed to be Catholic.

      • If the opinion of one writer for any organization would embarrass you as a Catholic; I would humbly suggest you weren’t much of a Catholic to start with…

        • This is so true. Some people have their heads in the sand. They listen to Donald Trumps words and forget all the insulting remarks he has made. Is it Christian to call someone a fat pig, a lair, making degrading words to women like Megyn Kelly, etc! I try to see if he is a Christian and his words are not Christ like.

          • Is it Christian to throw the first stone? Donald Trump is running to help all Americans before it is too late. Shame on you.

          • His recent pandering to the far right of the republican party was a poorly orchestrated, and glib performance. People need to be able to see through this kind of win at any cost game plan…. Donald Trump quoting bible verse was not very convincing….

          • No, voting democrat, like most Catholics do, is not Christ like. The Catholic church put the democrat party in business. They are more concerned about keeping people down on the democrat welfare plantation of dependence that voting against a party that promotes abortion, homosexual marriage and every other bizarre social behavior. I am Catholic but I don’t fall into that hypocrite category.

        • How do you know who is “much of a Catholic” and who isn’t. This article is disgusting and evil if you ask me. The future of our country and world depend on this election and only Donald Trump can save us – with God’s help and guidance.

        • I for one expected CV to go whole hog for Trump, despite the many deficiencies of this candidate, his personal life and his politics. Why do I say that? Trump, like Cruz is a sham, a fake, an egoist and an embarrassment to American sense of decency. So why would CV trumpet Trump? It’s simple really. CV has consistently supported fundamental concepts that marginalize individuals, espouse hate talk about other religions, pit groups against each other…most notably Catholics who differ, gays and the Church and progressives and idealologues. You bought him years ago. You bought Cruz years ago. You suffer for it now.

      • He’s the ONLY person who can make America great again? Really? I mean, really? Did you actually just write that? So who is he now, Jesus? Donald Trump: Savior of the Nation. Let’s be clear: there is no one person, NOBODY, who can make America great again. America will be great only so long as the collective actions of its people are great. Suggesting one person will make a country great is like suggesting one day of exercise will make you skinny. The only thing that will make you skinny is the sum total of ALL of your diet and exercise choices applied consistently over time. Same with America. It will only be great when the character of the majority of 300,000,000 people is great. That said, the choice of President is still an important one. Just don’t confuse think the President (Whoever he or she is) is somehow a savior. And by the way, there’s literally hundreds of businessmen and politicians who have a much more impressive resume than Trump. So saying he’s the only person who could do the job seems far-fetched to me.

      • being a Catholic is something that transcends the political realm. being a faithful catholic means voting in accordance with what the Church teaches to be morally right (ie, prolife ect.) it does not mean voting for one party, or even being bogged down by inter partisan squabbles like the ones afflicting the GOP. if someone disagrees on your politics, and suggests you vote a particular way, and that somehow makes you ashamed of being a catholic, ashamed of your faith and by extention, ashamed of the very God whom ought to be the sorce and summit of you life, it might be a good time to step back and reflect on what you have prioritized.

        in reguards to the actual point of trump vs anti trump, while it might not be wrong to like trump, the reality is that there are more candidates whose policy falls more in line with the teachings of the Catholic chuch, and whose history backs up those policies that Mr trump

      • I am appalled as a Catholic that you would put out such a piece. This is disgusting and disgraceful. You have no right to appear to sound like true Catholics as you are not based on what and how you wrote it. The Catholic Church should look into just who you really are and who you support politically. As Catholics we just don’t do this

      • I think there is a difference between a demand and a suggestion. Putting our highly emotional feelings aside. This is the question we must ask. Are we willing to dance with the devil to obtain what we think we can get? Can we convince ourselves that Trump’s lack of good morals makes up for his bulling tactics and power? Can he restore our pride in America and ourselves? Can he with his masterful CEOs ability turn around our economy? Can he guide us through the treacherous waters of foreign affairs? Will winning cost us our soul? I sure hope not. Lots of thoughtful Prayer in deciding. Right now my thought is Trump. After prayer I will see.

    • Not a reliable source of information. I was disappointed in the authors knowledge of the subject. There are other Catholic Resources that may be better and more unbiased for voters. Please understand journalist do not always understand the subject they are writing about.

      • Everything in this article is factual…so your reliable ruse is just that…reliable sources of information gives you true fact based on events…unreliable sources of information gives you opinions and speculation based on a fictional narrative…

    • I have little use for someone that identifies a problem without offering a solution. Trump is a problem for the author here and their solution is “several presidential candidates?” Does this author have issues with Nancy Pelosi being woman of the year for Planned Parenthood? I doubt it!

    • This is such a biased article & it does not represent Catholics. I have been Catholic all my life, went to Catholic School, attended church no less than 2 day’s a week. I was taught forgiveness, not to bash someone for their sins.
      Shame on this group to attack one candidate based on sins. I thought judgment was left for GOD to do, not his peers. Trump is a good man that has done so much for charity & people that he has never met.

      • I am a cradle Catholic, went to Catholic Schools and have at times attended Mass at least 5 days a week. I teach religious education RCIC and spend an hour every week with Jesus in Adoration. And yet, we can’t be cafeteria Catholic’s. We can’t pick and choose what we want to believe to make ourselves feel less guilty about the choices we make.

    • Can’t stand the truth, huh? You make me ashamed to be American, if you think this narcissistic vanilla Obama is what we need.

    • The church and the Pope need to back off and do some real soul searching, when you have more concerned with global warming and the redistribution of wealth, and not one word to Mr. Obama about abortion, and the mass killing and torture of Christians around the world, We have evil in Rome and in most of our church leaders.

    • Completely biased, misinformed, and judgmental post. I expected this site to layout the facts regarding all of the candidates’ positions and allow the visitors to make a choice for themselves. The Catholic Church has never and will never tell people how to vote, but apparently this blogger will use this platform to politically motivate voters to do what he or she wants them to do. Disappointing and complete loss of credibility in my opinion.

    • Patrick Carson on

      How can you say NOT TRUMP? Compared to a Democrat he is the lesser of two evils based on is Pro-life stance. Catholic Vote is not being honest in its assessment.

    • Patricia Houck on

      I want this place to remove me from your list, I’m a fierce Catholic raised in a Catholic School, the priest come to eat to my house and love Jesus and the Virgin Mary, I feel so offended because I do not see my church fighting against Obama and his lack of morals and decency, the only thing missing right now is to approve prostitution and Catholics do not say anything against this.

      Trump has made mistakes but he loves this country and his people, I have been following for the last 10 years and became a fan of him, he is a smart guy and believe me or not humble when is needed, we are right now being prosecuted by the current administration because of our Christian values and beliefs, I do not see Catholics fighting against Islam and their terrorist path, we are going to disappear sooner or later because we must be inclusive and tolerant without even care about our future as catholic.

      I would like this site to stop brainwashing people for not to vote for Trump, it makes me so angry that the administrator of this page do not say anything about liberals and their horrible agenda but trashing a man who can make big and good changes in USA, there is not time for this country to play politics, we need Trump to survive as Christians or there won’t be more USA!!!

      You can not be Christian and vote liberal or anyone else who is not Trump shame on you!

    • Ted Cruz is a real conservative. He is anti-abortion like all the Republican candidates. Sanders and Clinton are proudly pro abortion so by the Catholic Church’s teachings we can’t vote for them.
      Cruz is a great choice, he fights for what he believes in. He might not get along with everybody and that’s ok. I say vote for someone with high morals like Ted Cruz. Second place: Marco Rubio, or maybe he’d be a good vice president.

    • I agree! (Sorry, I have to use this reply space–there’s no “comment” space available. I don’t want to be on this email list either. Trump’s not, like Cruz, a self-righteous hypocrite, who lies. Cruz lied about Ben Carson, lied about his Goldman Sachs loans, then lied about lying about them, got huffy and judgmental with the press when he used his own daughters in a political ad, jabbered for 21 hours in the Senate for zero results except got his name known. What an opportunist wearing Jesu on his sleeve. Don’t trust Cruz at all!

    • Well Said Brother.

      WOW thats amazing, I believe over 40% of Catholic voters voted for Obama. Put that into perspective. There are far too many Liberal Catholics similar to 40% of the voters in US.but

      CV is going to tell us not to vote for Trump Catholics helped elect Obama. Stop the madness, vote Trump, he is a hammer and sees the corrupt government as a nail.

    • trump is the biggest charlatan i’ve ever seen. he is a rabid dog. just look at his snarling photos. he is a demagogue who is pandering to your every anger and fear. he is reminiscent of another demagogue who was welcomed by a desperate hysterical Germany about 85 years ago. The issues and the cultural milieu were similar, and, you betcha, the outcome will be similar with trump.

  1. Other than #2, he is rich enough not to be be bought, he really has nothing else to recommend him. When I wrote a blog endorsing Rick santorum over barrack Obama, I said the same thing. You can look at a person’s history and determine if you can trust them. Like Obama, trump does not have a long history of saying and then doing what he promised
    He could easily flip again. And given his lack of moral certitude, he could easily be bought if he chose to be. What would stop him…

    • Thisis Notacatholicweb on

      Trump likes to win and do what he wants. I highly doubt someone would ever successfully buy him. As for flip flopping, he’s only changed his views on abortion once, and it was over 12 years, which is plenty of time to evolve on an issue.

  2. Thank you for this! I think there would be a huge danger in letting someone as inconsistent as Mr. Trump continue successfully in the election process. Even with our bad presidents, there’s at least been some sort of consistency and conviction that they hold. But with Mr. Trump? Not so much.

    • You might be surprised by exploring the past inconsistencies of previous presidents. You are completely inaccurate when compared to the facts and history.

    • So you’d favor a bad president because at least he’s consistent or convicted? Seriously, if you’re actually going to make the effort to get onto the web and shower us with your weath of knowledge…..then please do so, because all I’m getting from your statement is……..nothing.

    • See bottom of this page: “PAID FOR BY CATHOLICVOTE.ORG civic action, A 501(C)4 ORGANIZATION. CONTRIBUTIONS TO CATHOLICVOTE.ORG ARE NOT TAX-DEDUCTIBLE”

      A 501(c)(4) organization can engage in legislative messaging and, unlike 501(c)(3), may also participate in campaigns and elections.

    • 501c4 not 501c3 – this is a political advocacy group and can endorse candidates like Human Rights Campaign has done.

      Note: I do not support any candidate, and being a US legal resident (Canadian by birth) I don’t even have the moral obligation to vote for one.

  3. What an informed, insightful article! Thank you, The facts you have presented have been obvious to some for a long time. I am hopeful that this brilliant analysis will open even more eyes to the YUUUGE mistake it would be for us to even consider Donald Trump. He presents no intelligent solution,. His speech has been rated by linguists a THIRD GRADE level. He is petty and petulant. I can imagine only (worse) chaos for our country with the election of Donald Trump,

  4. If you can’t “Remain on the Sidelines any Longer” than when are you going to tell the 52% of Catholics,who vote for the Party that supports Abortion, that in doing so is KILLING Innocent Children. I’m not for Trump either but did you do this for Obama & V.P.Biden? (a so called Catholic?) So many times I am embarrassed to say I am a Catholic! The Seventh Commandment States “Thou Shall Not Kill” but the Church won’t tell the Ignorant Catholics (the 52%) they are voting for the Political Party that Supports Abortion? SHAME on Them!!! We will never see the end to Abortion with Stupidity as such.

    • Colette Michieli on

      Thank you Dan. If CatholicVote has made similar statements about pro_abort candidates, well good for them. Some how I doubt it. For some reason the “marriage” between some Catholics and the democrat party is just too difficult to break up. But maybe, just maybe there will be a similar statement made.

      • Condemning pro-abort, pro-gay-marriage candidates is literally 95% of what CatholicVote DOES in election seasons. They RABIDLY fought both Obama both times, and demand that Catholics vote for pro-life candidates.

        There is not even a single ounce of hypocrisy here. These guys are the real deal. And they’re absolutely right to distrust Mr. Trump, who is about as “pro-life” as Harry Reid.

        • Thank you James. Its almost unbelievable to me how many Catholics posting here are for Trump. The devil, the master of lies, sucks the vulnerable into believing him and makes them think that truths are lies 🙁

    • CV has been pretty consistent in saying abortion trumps other moral issues. I don’t remember the exact lines but I have liked CV’s focus on moral issues while at the same being concerned that they can be overly political using the “Catholic” name. It may not have been by name but they have clearly argued against pro-abortion politicians with extremely strong language.

      Note: I do not support any candidate, and being a US legal resident (Canadian by birth) I don’t even have the moral obligation to vote for one.

      • Interesting take on moral obligation. Last I checked, there’s a moral obligation associated with The sin of omission. To not vote against Hillary, Sanders, and the democrat platform on abortion is as culpable as standing there while a baby is slaughtered and doing nothing. Short sighted and spineless of any Catholic to not vote.

        • I have to agree with Pete here Father………… I believe it is a duty and moral obligation. If you’re living here and if you are looking for the greater good…..you should vote. I feel like many priests spend more time on bashing America than actually helping this country.

          • Phil Steinacker on

            By stating he is a US legal resident but Canadian by birth I suspect he means to say he is not a citizen and cannot vote.

            I live in the People’s Republic of Maryland which is owned pretty much by the Democratic Party.

            I vote locally but it matters not one whit if I vote in the presidential election. There is a serious prospect I’ll sit this one out.

    • Our mantra should be simply this: “IT’S NOT THE BABY’S FAULT– DON’T SLAUGHTER THE BABY!” I too share the frustration of the Church tending to lump abortion at the same level of priority as other issues such as welfare programs, which is just one group’s method of (at least claiming to) care for the poor. If they have no right to live (which we must defend), then all other “rights” are irrelevant…

    • Patricia Houck on

      exactly you are so right! We are prosecuted as Christians with this current administration and this site did not say anything!

    • He will stop one thing Cruz rubio aits 50 million illegals first of all .
      Now we need three wins the american people 1 – border wall
      2- deportation
      3- the end of bad trade deals Asian pacific pact literally ends the USA
      I have left the catholic church for just the reason here this story.
      You care nothing for american poor care nothing for the american people I will not read this again personally since the catholic church has advocated for many years political parties and I have heard it myself explain why the church is not taxed I think an end to the church is around the corner.

  5. You have an article in which you criticize the candidate for supporting universal healthcare? Do you even Catholic, bro?

    • The fact that Trump is “pro-universal health care” may be at least one good quality. Of course this does not mean that Obamacare (which is not universal) or a mediocre single payer system are the only policy design options.

      Imagine an Affordable Health care option that charges what a patient can afford and guarantees the provider a reasonable fee. The system would depend on accurate family income and wealth data to determine the fee – something which income alone cannot do. See http://www.taxnetwealth.com/

      Perhaps 50 to 60 percent of the nation might choose Affordable Health (based on the fact that half the U.S. families share only 1% of wealth and cannot afford insurance). As family wealth and earnings increased so would health fees making private health insurance a more attractive economic choice. Without the need to equalize rates due to age, sex or health history, insurers would be free to rate policies based upon statistically reliable data and market forces. Employers could also make some good deals for their employees and would not be compelled to offer non-essential health care options.

      The Affordable Health care system would require a few provisions to make it economically viable.
      1. Free prescription medication with government control of drug development and production. This would eliminate the many evils of Big Pharma and reduce the cost of health insurance and care by 15%.
      2. Replace open medical malpractice litigation in the Affordable Health system with caps on damages, administrative hearings and arbitration.
      3. Digitize all medical records for easy tell care examinations.
      4. Unpaid medical fees would become a tax enforced by the IRS.
      5. Increased use of nurse practitioners

      • Your #1 – “Free Rx medication with government control of drug development” — bad bad bad idea! You’re forgetting that the HPV vaccination was developed by government, which holds the patent, and the approval process was the fastest ever, and much less stringent. There is an epidemic of sudden death or debilitation in healthy girls and young women within a short time of having the vaccine, but government denies this. (Note: I am not a conspiracy theorist proponent — I initially thought the vaccine was a good idea just because males can carry the virus without symptoms, and so it should protect women; but then I found out who holds the patent, and read accounts by actual physicians who oppose the vaccine and are frustrated that their reports of tragic incidences are blown off(. It’s even worse than “Big Pharma” because there is no entity to check government power.

      • Looking at less restrained governments than our own, I can see some real issues with the government controlling drug development and production.

        Some of the issues are simply a matter of the inefficiencies of central planning. Is the government really “smart” enough to do this?

        What happens if, for example, the central pharmaceutical bureaucracy makes a mistake and does not authorize enough insulin to be manufactured for the needs of diabetics in the country? How quickly would they respond to such a situation? What would happen to people who needed insulin while the government restocked the supply?

        Another example – is the government really “smart” enough to be able to choose which medicines to research? Is the government going to be able to properly decide which medicines are the ones to fund and which ones should be provided? Will that decision be swayed by lobbyists and which Senator has the pharmaceutical factory in their state?

        Then there are more nefarious problems which might arise if we someday have a government which decides to move towards authoritarian or even totalitarian ideas.

        What happens if the government decides that certain diseases should not be treated because they are the result of “bad behavior” and so the people who have those diseases do not deserve help? What do those people do?

        What happens if the government decides that some people are too old or too sick to receive the government-controlled medicine?

        What happens if the government decides that political dissidents should have their medical privileges taken away?

        Government control is not a panacea. And, as we have seen before in history, it can sometimes be a nightmare.

      • Affordable health care isn’t “affordable”. Because it required insurers take on more risk, it WILL, via economic certainty, cost more money, and therefore won’t be more affordable. All the magic ju-ju marketing from the ACA and Single Payer advocates can’t stop this economic LAW.

        And, if you FORCE the price to be lower, and ergo “affordable”, then you’re comparing apples to oranges, because the quality and quantity of care supplied cannot be equal to what you were getting before. Again, simple economic LAW.

    • The “Affordable Health Care Act” — besides being a misnomer — is driving Catholic hospitals out of healthcare. We just lost ours.

  6. DONALD TRUMP (DRUMPF) IS GERMAN—SCOTTISH………..NO AMERICAN “FATHER” TO BE PRESIDENT USA.

    SAMM Tittle 2016 SAMM–Saving Americas Majesty for Millions
    SAMM WILL BE PRESIDENT.

    • Patricia Houck on

      we have a foreigner as president and with all that incompetent corrupted and immoral, what do yo say about these current administration?

  7. I think if “inconsistency” is the threshold for voting for a candidate then perhaps Jesus made some challenging choices in the sinners He picked… I have not decided for whom I will vote – I am asking our Lord to help identify the person HE wants to lead our nation back to HIM – and just like Paul was the least likely as he breathed murderous threats…. Donald Trump MAY be the least likely based upon all of his past sins… I will pray and fast and ask our Lord to show me for whom my vote should be cast.

  8. Catholic Vote is pretty much the National Review of catholic media. You know Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, recently funded Planned Parenthood, even after a dozen videos showing PP selling baby parts, yet I’m sure you would find a way to excuse this behavior on the part of Paul Ryan. You hold politicians who are your buddies to lower standards than those politicians who aren’t.

  9. Well, since you oppose universal health care, clearly this site is not Catholic. Might as well call yourselves Republican Vote.

      • At section 2288, the catechism says: “Concern for the health of its citizens requires that society help in the attainment of living-conditions that allow them to grow and reach maturity: food and clothing, housing, health care, basic education, employment, and social assistance”

        • key word “Society”. Not government. As a corporal work of mercy we should give what we can but Christ never forced anyone to walk with him.

        • And the best way is full employment, small government, and free enterprise instead of socialism.

          History has proven this empirically. Section 2288 doesn’t specify the best way to get to the desired result, which is the most prosperity and well being for the most of our fellow man.

      • The editorial says nothing about government health care, force or coercion.

        “He was a liberal democrat, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care…”

    • Hey Justin, how is being against universal health care make one not Catholic?

      If you bothered to check countries with universal health care you will find that care is rationed and in many cases people die because of the long waits to be seen and for access to the proper treatment. We had a Canadian doctor come to our hospital to practice twenty years ago and he was flabbergasted that when he ordered a CAT scan or MRI that the tests were done no later than the next day and in most instances they were done the day he ordered them. And we are not a big city. We are a county of only 100,000 people and a city with a population of 25,000.

      In Canada, where universal health care is the norm, there are month long waits ALWAYS. And remember how people from Canada would come to the US for treatment because they wanted a chance to beat their cancers because with cancer TIMELY treatment is of utmost importance and they could get that here. And what about the patients in England who suffer from the same problems with their universal health care, dying from diseases that would be curable IF they were treated in a timely manner. At least in England, private care is allowed. That is not the case with Obamacare.

      And we were told our health care premiums would be $2,500.00 lower and we could keep our doctors. Well that turned out to be two huge lies. Our insurance has more than doubled and we now have out of network doctors plus our deductibles will bankrupt us.

      A doctor friend read the Obamacare thousands of pages. He decided to retire. He could have worked a few more years but said he would not practice medicine in violation of his Hippocratic Oath. He saw in black and white reading that document that there would be rationed care, failure to treat people who were treatable and doctors would eventually be fined for refusing to perform abortion.

      Government run health care is not moral or the Catholic way.

      But I have digressed from the point of this article. I appreciate that Trump would not let the media and RINOs bully him. But he is not presidential material. A better choice would be Cruz who has been in the belly of the beast (the Congress in Washington) and challenged them repeatedly to push back against the terrible policies that are crippling this nation. And he has an educational background to deal with the complexity of what our government laws have evolved into. He knows how to defend our Constitution. He has proved he has the fight in him to do it.

      But Catholic Vote is correct, do not vote for Trump.

      • The editorial says nothing about government-run health care. It says…universal health care, as I wrote.

        “He was a liberal democrat, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care…”

        And yes, the Catholic Church supports universal health care.

    • Thank you.

      I’m not of the Christian faith but it would seem to fit in with the Catholic ideology to support universal healthcare to ensure that all citizens have access. I have read the Bible and there are numerous examples of Jesus helping the poor and telling his followers to be kind to others. The stingy nature of some of the GOP candidates would make your Jesus cry.

      • Not all citizens have access to healthcare because of the “Affordable Health Care Act” — everyone’s insurance rates doubled at least, their deductibles jumped astronomically (no matter how much a person earns, the deductible is from $5,000-$10,000/year, causing many to forego seeking treatment). I’m no longer able to make a living wage because my hours were cut to keep my employer from having to provide me with benefits (I didn’t even have employer benefits before the Act was signed into law, they, like so many others that had never offered medical benefits, simply cut employee hours, leaving us out in the cold and receiving whatever public assistance we can scrabble together, or competing for multiple minimum wage jobs). On top of all this, the Catholic hospital closed. Before the stupid UNaffordable Health Care Act went into effect, I relied on the charitable services through the Sisters of Mercy. Now there’s not a single hospital in the region that practices my religious values. Non-Catholic health care providers push birth control and other things that violate my religious beliefs. It’s degrading to be in an examination room with the doctor scolding me for not accepting any kind of birth control, just because his or her personal beliefs are that every woman, regardless of her state in life, *should* be using some type of birth control method. And since you don’t know my Jesus, you have no foundation to be instructing me in my Faith.

    • This sort of comment (I’ve seen several on this same post, just finally decided to reply to this one) bothers me a bit. I assume you mean that as Catholics, we have an obligation to care for the sick, help the poor, etc. Anyone who denies that is clearly not practicing Church, or even simply biblical, teaching. However, you can believe the government has no place in doing the providing and still believe in trying to help the impoverished. The role of caring for those who cannot help themselves has in history been filled by the church, though often supported by the government through donations and/or enforced tithes. This system has definite advantages, as it gives medical practitioners some assurance that they won’t be expected to perform procedures that violate their morals, and (So long as there isn’t an element of coercion) provides those in better economic situations to give alms. Government supported healthcare, though not inherently wrong, opens up further problems. There have already been cases about employers being forced to violate their morals in order for the government healthcare system to function. That’s not a problem that can be avoided in a society so morally fragmented as the United States is. It puts some level of control over one of the most personal sides of a person’s life in the government’s hands (Look at the education system for an example of how federal funding allows for a heavy handed, top down interference).

      All in all, I believe I see your point (and please correct me if I missed it!) but have to disagree with it. Centralized universal healthcare is not morally necessary in a society, and has in recent history been detrimental to the practice of the Faith. It makes both the funding and provision of healthcare to impersonal, by removing the practice of charity and bureaucratically controlling what a doctor must be willing to do.

    • Phil Steinacker on

      Your claim is errant nonsense. Catholicism is NOT synonymous with universal healthcare, and no Catholic is required to support it!

      Where were you formed in the Faith? It would seem you should demand a re-take.

  10. Well, you weren’t ON the sidelines RE: Trump, so…

    There are loads of “moral, character filled men” who sign everything Obama puts in front of them. They couldn’t defund PP, they rolled on ACA, they lost on social issues. You can keep them.

    • Just like when Paul Ryan included funding Planned Parenthood in the budget. He didn’t have to do it. He could have taken a moral stand and dared the other House Republicans to vote against him and kick him out of the speakership. They wouldn’t have done it, I’m sure, but Paul wasn’t willing to take that risk to his career.

      • Correct.

        Trump appears before us today (as does Sanders on the other side) as people have caught on to the game and understand that the people they have elected in good faith are either ineffectual, liars or political careerists – or some combination of the three.

        CV misreads this, as did National Review last week. I’d caterwaul too-they exist to support an establishment that had their chance and was found wanting.

        Nature abhors a vacuum.

        • What a hatchet job this article is!

          Trump for President! Trump… Trump… Trump…

          Make America Great Again… Because the USA is in deep trouble. We will not survive another 8 years of do nothing career politicians who are Lawyers. Our financial affairs need to be put in order. Real productive Jobs need to be created in this nation… and that does NOT mean more fast food jobs, retail sales jobs or waiter and bartender jobs!

          Too many corrupt Lawyers in Washington! NO MORE LAWYERS!

          Trump for President! Trump… Trump… Trump…

          Make America Great Again…

          • Phil Steinacker on

            I notice that not one Trump supporter here or anywhere EVER factually refutes the serious flaws cited in Trump’s character, his past support for liberal positions or their politicians, his horrendous personal behavior which DOES call into question his integrity and morality, his obvious bullying tactics and belittling, crass, loudmouth, attacks on others.

            Instead, most of you seem to imitate Trump in making personal attacks on his critics. The author(s) of this piece did not do a hatchet job; t(he)y cited real elements from Trump’s life and career which would severely damage his prospects with any responsible Catholic and true conservative.

            It’s obvious there is much fear of looking at the truth of this man, by the ad hominum attacks and the failure to refute the specific criticisms.

            It would appear most to you lack any political seasoning beyond your conservative instincts, and at least some of you are too young to remember Ross Perot who did this act before Trump. The big difference is that Perot was an actual conservative but he was a loose cannon like Trump.

            With Hillary imploding, the Justice Dept damned if they indict and damned if they don’t, Sanders the socialist ready to sink the Dems, and Bloomberg waiting in the wings, the Democrats seem to have bigger problems than the Republicans.

            It would seem.

            I have been paying some attention to Trump for years, and what the article says about his behavior and his support for liberal issues and candidates is TRUE.

            YOu say it isn’t? THEN REFUTE IT BUT QUIT YOUR BELLY-ACHING.

      • I have to defend Paul Ryan. Ryan had no choice. Shutting down the government was not going to get Planned Parenthood defunded. Obama would never cave.

        If they did shut down the government its possible that the nation would vote against the Republicans and they would lose the election.

        The best way to DEFUND Planned Parenthood is to win the election.

        To use Paul Ryan doing what he did with his hands tied behind his back, as an excuse to vote for Trump.

        IF a government shut down would work I would happily support it. But polls showed the American people were not keen on the idea. And Obama would never agree. It was not a strategy that would work.

      • Patricia Houck on

        Unless you are so used to deal with politics, Trump is not one of them he say what he means and I’m find with his approach since I’m so tired to see how this Country is going down the spiral and no more USA if there is another democrat in power, since this country does not have time anymore we need someone who fix things on a radical way, I’m the daughter of a socialist politician and I don’t like to see this country destroyed and is already following the pattern, my vote is for Trump easily!

        • He says what he means? Like when he said he’d watch TV shows for how to lead the military, when he said he’d scare the pope with ISIS, when he implied that he wouldn’t necessarily defund PP, or when he said he’d date his own daughter if they weren’t related?

  11. WOW! Sounds like you’re judging Trump because he sins differently than you! I am 54 years old and was born and raised Catholic and up until several years ago I remained Catholic but started I questioning the Catholic religion for a multitude of reasons. So now this just confirms that I no longer consider myself Catholic. Shame on yall! Judgmental hypocrites. smh

  12. Juliana Fuller on

    This is a fake Catholic website. You’re right Justin–it’s a Republican propaganda site.

    Juliana (an INDEPENDENT) Fuller

  13. N. Susana Varela on

    Why dont you discuss Hillary Clinton and all the wrongs she and her husband have done?
    There are many Catholic tenets that she has violated including her view on the murder of innocent babies through abortion. Her participation in the email scandal, the failure to act to protect our Embassador in Bengazzi. Her coverup and lies! Defending her husbands acts when he committed and finally admitted secual acts outside the Marriage. You talk about Trump and are ignoring the worst two candidates. Clinton has both character and business flaws. What makes her better than Trump.
    Why dont you also discuss Bernie Sanders and his communist/socialist views, that do not concur with our Catholic faith,
    I too can no longer remain silent with your biased views.
    REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR MAIL LIST FOREVER!

  14. The church needs to keep it’s nose out of politics,, you know.. Separation of church of state. Do unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God.

    How about praying for all the candidates and let God decide who we should vote for.

  15. You’re very wrong and woefully shortsighted! TRUMP will be a wonderful President! A thousand times better than Barry Obama, GW Bush OR Bill (I’m a sleaze) Clinton. Be of good cheer~!

  16. Who authored this article? A friend of mine who is a Trump supporter would like to know because at the end you have posted this:

    “PAID FOR BY CATHOLICVOTE.ORG. NOT COORDINATED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATE COMMITEE.”

    “The views expressed here are those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views of CatholicVote.org”

  17. Thisis Notacatholicweb on

    Slander is something the Catholic Church teaches against isn’t it? Donald Trump never defended partial birth abortion. He flubbed and said he would before he new what it was but then clarified it. “I support a woman’s right to choose, but I am uncomfortable with the procedures. When Tim Russert asked me on Meet the Press if I would ban partial-birth abortion, my pro-choice instincts led me to say no. After the show, I consulted two doctors I respect and, upon learning more about this procedure, I have concluded that I would support a ban.” This was back in 2000, 15 years ago.

    This is a very biased and unprofessional article. You conveniently leave out many details about Donald Trump, such as how much he has given to charity over the years, and the time he saved a woman’s farm from being foreclosed after her husband committed suicide and she couldn’t make the mortgage payments. He has slept around, like many wealthy men (what else can you expect from an Episcopalian Billionaire?), but he has raised his children very well, and they are all stable and successful despite their wealthy upbringing. He doesn’t drink, or even smoke cigarettes, something that Catholics are encouraged to do. But why haven’t you mentioned any of these positives of Trumps personality? How about his work ethic? This is not a Catholic article. It’s a biased, political rant.

    You claim he offers solutions without giving his means of providing them. Yet all his policies are listed on his website. Here is immigration plan: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

    And no, wanting current immigration law to be enforced is not anti-Catholic. It is also not very difficult if we have competent leadership. Is it more humane to not enforce our border laws, and let gangs, cartels, and criminals run rampant across the border?

    • This response is the best response I have read thus far on this site regarding this prejudiced article. Thank you for sharing a piece of the larger part of this picture!

    • All candidates have pros and cons. However, there’s simply way too much criticism on Trump to brush off as media spin. Even if these positives are true, they do not excuse all the bad. In addition to the all that CV listed, we’re supposed conveniently ignore his admission to buying politicians, his statement that he’ll watch TV shows to run the military, and his claim to never really have asked God for forgiveness? If he has detailed plans, then why doesn’t he provide the specifics when asked for them?

  18. You make an assertion and assumption about immigration that are patently untrue. (1) Impossible? Bill Clinton deported 1.8 million illegal immigrants in his final year in office. Multiply that by 6, and Trump gets his wish. If that was possible in 2000 with no concerted effort on Democrats’ part, how much more it is now. (2) Inhumane? If Bill Clinton deported 1.8 million in one year and that was not inhumane, why is it inhumane now? Which part of the process is inhumane?
    Here are the facts: http://cis.org/ICE-Illegal-Immigrant-Deportations

  19. DOUGLAS E. DEBLASE on

    I am a Catholic and have always said the pulpit needs to stay out of this. You have nerve to make the comments you do. The pulpit had always been pushing support for the Democrats. The baby killers that you hold marches against. A president who in the office and outside of it violated women co stantly and whos wife is bi sexual. A party that keeps people down instead of helping them rise. You support politicians who wittness the killing of hundreds of thousands of Christians and do nothing. You have the gall to bad mouth Trump and try to destroy him. You support democrates that support and endorse homosexuality and legalize it in a society thats religious morals deteriorate daily. People come to church to be with God not with mentally ill liberal political views so keep them to yourself and take me off your mailing list.

  20. I’m sorry, but I do not remember getting this kind of Email from The CV when Obama was running! I do understand that there is a chance we will be taking to vote for Mr. Trump, but with all the others running that could actually win this election, there is not much there! All these guys running will be bought and paid for by the Big Boys before they ever get there!
    So, if your going to tell us who not to vote for, at least give us your best bet on who can WIN and save our country from complete destruction the way we are heading now! How in the world can The CV be so silent the past eight years? Our party has the House and Senate, but yet nothing can stop what is happening! The American people can not take a chance on the same old deal anymore! We are out of time! Our country is so weak world wide right now that if we do not have a very strong leader, there will be a major attack on our country by another Super power! We are already being taken over from within and everyone knows this. So, that said, it is time for a leader that loves this country and I do believe that Trump does love this country and will not risk going down as a bad President! I do like that he said he will work for no presidents pay check! Whens the last time you ever heard that from one of these guys?
    Mater of fact, I have never even heard of the CV…. So, if your telling us the truth and The CV is really Catholics that care about our country, why in the hell are you not in every one of our churches talking to people ???
    Do you know how long people have been waiting for The CV to show up and try to stop what is happening??

    A LONG TIME!

    • CatholicVote was a brand-new organization in 2008, so its endorsements were much shorter (they didn’t even exist when the primary season was getting started), but here’s the official CatholicVote.org endorsement from Election Day 2008:

      November 04, 2008
      My final 5 observations
      by Thomas Peters
      I have been covering the 2008 presidential election since its beginning, striving always to provide a personal perspective informed by, and faithful to, the teachings of the Catholic Church.

      In this brief calm before tonight’s media storm, here are my top five conclusions about this race:

      Obama’s record and philosophy disqualifies him from being an acceptable candidate

      McCain is not a perfect candidate, but he is acceptable, and thus the better choice

      The American bishops have spoken – Obama is not an acceptable candidate

      Pro-Obama Catholic advocates will remain with us into an Obama presidency

      Election controversies are faith controversies – we need to learn from them…

      Of course, I could have gone on, but there will be so many last-minute op-eds published today that I’m content to stop here. If you haven’t voted yet, please go vote. It’s how we Catholics can directly influence our world for the better. Oh – and pray, and fast. Those last two activities also make our world a better place.

      P.S. Mr. Peters, CV.org would be substantially more effective if your 2008/2012 archives were online. As far as I can tell, they are not just missing from your tags and your searches, but are actually offline — the only place I can find them is in the Wayback Machine, which is very difficult to navigate.

  21. Thank you. I would like to also point out that the USCCB (along with the Pope) tells us Catholics that we have an obligation to those 11 million undocumented persons as well as the unborn.

  22. I carry no water for Mr. Trump, but in fairness, have the private lives of other candidates been examined and reported on as this article does? Regarding point 1, we did not elect a saint in JFK or Bill Clinton whose sexual adventures are well known–not to speak of the lesser known reported wanderings of FDR and the notorious end that VP Rockefeller met (of course, he was not elected). Point is, let’s be fair in our investigations and reporting, and let’s remember that none of us is without sin. As the article points out, there are other significant concerns with Trump’s perspective and message. But, this article smacks of a selective hit job.

  23. Judgmental hypocrites Always come out for an election! If Trump should become President, if he gets well informed and educated regarding abortion law and is able to abolish it, I personally double dare any of you self righteous “Catholics” to give one single speck of praise! So cross your fingers now and pray hard that he doesn’t succeed! Breath!

  24. I am a devout Catholic and Donald Trump is a sinner just like I am. It is no time for purists or religious fanaticism. What if his past wasn’t so publicized? Would you vote for him then if he fit in with your very exterior mindset? This is a question of who can lead our country, not about reviewing someone’s sin history! Would you prefer Hillary? or Bernie? Probably not I would hope, but voting for someone like Ted Cruz or Ben Carson…..or simply not voting at all is just as bad as voting for Hillary or Bernie in my opinion, with the knowledge that neither Ted or Ben will have as much of a chance as Trump.This is what happened when Obama got elected last election…….Most of the people at my church voted for Ron Paul instead of Mitt Romney for the same reasons they bash Trump………and look who got elected. We should not be the “thought police” and go around evaluating and judging people’s hearts…..obviously it should be an obvious sign of God working in Trump’s life when he’s focusing on the greater good and not just the greater good for us Catholics, but for everyone in our beautiful country. You seriously don’t think that other republican candidates aren’t doing questionable things that just haven’t been as publicized as Trump? Please…..yes, character is important, but don’t forget that Trump is a businessman and an entertainer. I’m not agreeing with everything he’s done, but I’m not going to pretend I know his heart or his relationship with God, as I wouldn’t do to anyone else. You say “there is no perfect candidate?” Then practice what you preach and for goodness sake! Use your common sense and the reality set before you…not your own purist, might I say, prideful opinion of what YOU think and want and what may not be the best for everyone in our country!

    Trump…..You have my vote!

  25. Urging readers to take a close look at Ted Cruz. He understands the Constitution and will follow it. We are going to need someone very smart, high character, and principled such as Ted to lead us out of the mess we are in.

  26. Good points in this article! I think Ted Cruz is as close as we’re going to get to a good candidate for the White House and the Establishment, Trump and the Press will see to it he doesn’t make it! Pray your rosaries folks that this country doesn’t have a Nebuchadnezzar moment anytime soon. I don’t know my Old Testament as well as I should, but the book of Jeremiah has an eerie resonance nowadays. At some point this nation will face a devastating chastisement, much like Judah and Jerusalem in 587(?) BC And it won’t come from God but from our fellow human being., (EMP attack, dollar collapse, something like that.) Kyrie Eleison Christe Eleison.

    • Patricia Houck on

      Seriously with all the lack of integrity and moral from Cruz and what he did to Carson I do not think so and hopefully he gets out of the campaign!

  27. I am grateful for this document and information. Thank you. I certainly would prefer to be able to always vote for someone who is :
    1. A person of character who both respects God and has deep seated moral values that show in their life history
    2. consistently Pro-life

    Sadly in my 73 years, I have not frequently found such folks. And so I am forced to vote for the person who more closely comes somewhat NEAR to my standards.
    While I like how he has shaken up the political process, your document on Mr. Trump was eye-opening and convinces me he is too far off the mark and thus cannot get my Catholic vote.

    • Chuck, I echo your sentiments. That is my litmus test for every election. Sadly, if Mr. Trump gets the nomination, I feel that we will not have a candidate that will fit either of the above criteria. I have NO DOUBT that once Trump secures the nomination, his stance on abortion will “evolve” yet again. I will NOT vote for Clinton. I will NOT vote for Trump. If those are my choices in November then I will stay home and pray for my country.

  28. This article is informative, however, a bit editorial. All sarcasm aside I would love to see a comparison piece showing how the other candidates fare up to the same scrutiny.

    If you can’t propose solutions than you’re only highlighting problems. Trump is all that you’ve described here but may be the only candidate that can win against the Democratic candidate. If I had to choose between the two, I would have to choose Trump if only to move the needle ever so slightly to the right.

  29. No offense, but this reads like a scribe from a high school journalist that just took a social justice 101 course.it is completely naive and delusional and disregards the reality of the macro political scene that takes place in DC. war is hell. For those of us in the bloodless trenches of DC who fight the battle every day, we know this all too well. There’s collateral damage. Trump is what we get from 50 + years of our Bishops abandoning teaching true Catholic doctrine and what it means to be a Catholic first in America.
    And so it comes down to Trump or Hilary. No one else on the Republican side can win. They’re all just as dirty as Trump, if not more so. They didn’t get where they are without concessions. If you disagree, you’re either naive to how it works in this city or part of the concessions.

    If Hillary gets in, it’s game over for true Catholics in America as we know it. 6 months ago, had Cruz or Rubio been able to deliver the goods with their campaigns, I’d be all in behind them. But they’re done. Over. No broad voter appeal. No chance at this point. They failed to deliver. And so our dark horse is Trump. So be it. He’s against abortion, will shut down the borders, is pro gun, and will clean house. He can’t function like a king, so any of his more far fetched policies will be moderated down to workable plans.
    And for anyone naive enough to think a coming persecution of faithful Catholics isn’t in the sights… don’t be a silly little goosey. The bishops put on their blinders when they danced with the devil, obama, on healthcare, and then they had the audacity to take umbrage that the man child whose only vote was to let babies die after failed abortions Catholics would burn and betray them. Cmon.

    Faithful Catholics, this vote is about our ability to worship and espouse our Beliefs. This vote is about the reality of terrorist cells in each of our 50 states. This is about people getting their heads cut off at work, blown up at marathons, and gunned down by Muslim coworkers. The vote is Trump or Hillary. Period. I have no love for Trump, but he offers the only viable alternative to live another day. We don’t have the luxury of “I don’t believe him” paranoia. I sure as heck know where the Democrats and Hillary stand. There is currently no shining Catholic politician who is going to ride in on a white horse. Our best bet hangs on the heels of a bombastic, flawed Trump. So be it. The alternatives are suicidal for the long game.
    Pray on it and apply reason.

  30. I’m my profession of faith in mention 3 people, Jesus, Marry and Poitius Pilate and I often ask if Poitius would have not allowed for a public vote which apposed trurt and let Jesus would I be saved today. My reason for asking is that this article has lead me to think I should vote for Trump because he has a simular record as Bill, Hillary an Obama who seem to know how to become president. My point being a bad vote may me a right choice. It is a sad state of the State when it seems a no vote for Trump seem as a yes vote for Hillary.

  31. Not my first choice. BUT, I understand and feel the reasons why he is so wildly popular. My question. If it comes down to Trump or a Democrat, who would YOU, Brian, vote for? Hillary? Sanders? Or not vote?

    • I’d have to vote for another party at that point. I can’t have my name attached to any of those candidates. We need a 3+ party system anyways.

  32. I agree with CV, of course, however, if the only other people running are Clinton and Sanders, my vote will HAVE to go to Trump as he may help save the babies; we know Clinton and Sanders will not. Life is the most important issue for me and so I will have to vote for Trump however much I do not want to.

  33. 8. “No Salary Means No Personal Gain”

    Donald Trump has said that he will not accept a salary as President giving some the impression that he has so much money, he is no longer motivated by money. Of course there are many wealthy CEOs that no longer accept a salary simply to avoid tax payments and increase their non-taxable income – (generally the kind that comes from real estate and stock appreciation). In Mr. Trump’s 2000 book, “The America We Deserve”, he called for an extream 14.25% tax on wealth to pay off the U.S. national debt in exchange for elimination of the Estate Tax. Nine years later Trump became a Republican. His tax plan now calls for adding $10 trillion to the national debt and elimination of the Estate Tax with no quid pro quo from the wealthy. Too many in the GOP have been corrupted by wealth and are willing to eliminate the Estate Tax that applies to wealth over $5 million without first balancing the budget. This is a form of crony capitalism that other candidates are also trapped in. Assuming Trump’s wealth continues to grow at a modest pace, he stands to personally gain about $5 billion from his lifelong goal of eliminating the Estate Tax.

    9. “Trump Cares about Catholics”

    Donald Trump selected Katrina Pierson as his campaign spokesperson. She has tweeted, “Just saw a commercial from Catholic Church stating that Catholic Church was started by Jesus. I bet they believe that too. #sad” Both Ms. Pierson and Mr. Trump owe an explanation before they can ask for any Catholic’s “sad” vote. Trump cannot be expected to understand the moral and legal objections Catholics have to public tax support for Family Planning or business refusal to participate in gay, violent or immoral celebrations of any type.

  34. Trump is not presidential; he is a dangerous narcissist. If he thinks he has been insulted, and then name-called North Korea or Iran’s First Ladies a bimbo, all our sons and daughters would be going off to war! Pro-Trump people, no one denies Trump is entertaining, but this is too dangerous an election. He SAYS what he wants voters to hear, but his ACTIONS are very different! Up until he started campaigning, Trump was a 100%
    pro-abort liberal, supporting all THIER candidates and agendas. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, guess what…..

    • Patricia Houck on

      Is better to die like a hero and remember terrorist are coming here to kill our children if someone do not stop them Christians are going to be history if we elect another democrat or anyone who is not Trump, we need him ASAP!

  35. Wow….everything in this article is either a flat out lie or severely misrepresented. I thought Christians were not supposed to judge others, lie, or be envious of others? Very hypocritical. Jesus would frown upon you. Trump is the best candidate we have running for president. I, and everyone I know, is voting for Trump. Before you ‘Christians’ call me a ‘low IQ redneck Trumpbot’, please note I have a Ph.D..

    TRUMP 2016!!!

    • In every poll that has been taken to see who wins in a general election, Trump loses by a landslide to either Hillary or Sanders. Look it up. Carson, Rubio and Cruz would beat either of the democrats according to the polls. Trump has consistently shown to poll the worst against the Dems. Look it up. So a vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary/Sanders. Good luck with that…

  36. It says Catholic Vote is the author of this article and then at the end of the article it says…..The views expressed here are those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views of CatholicVote.org lol.

    Show yourself.

  37. The article is misleading as it is written over the catholicvote.org letterhead and paid for by catholic vote.org but the disclaimer states that the article represents the views of the author not necessarily the views of catholic vote.org.
    So, which is it?

  38. So . . . what? You mean to tell me you’re NOT going to vote for Trump, but instead you WILL vote for Hillary??

    How about applying your same litmus test to the last 7 years of the Obama/Clinton administration . . then tell me who is the lesser of the evils

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  39. I wonder if this website is funded by the Democrats. Just saying. This article assumes that a person cannot change. This is not an endorsement for Donald Trump, but I think he is a changed man from years ago. And as a Catholic, I have not ruled him out as a viable candidate and a potentially good POTUS.

  40. I have enjoyed your emails for a long time….

    No, Trump is not perfect, but you make no suggestion then who else to vote for. Your attack on why not to vote for him is simply ludacris, quite pathetic, that one would choose to find small errors I’m sure he’s not the only one guilty for. We all make mistakes. How about the many good things he has done too? I bet the list woule be 30× longer than this pity ‘bad reasons’.

    His intentions are good, and I suggest you look at yourself in the mirror and stop judging. Don’t tell me who to vote for unless you have an alternative. I’m quite sure you’ve lost yourself a lot of subscribers today, including me. Once I send this, I’ll be seeking the’ unsubscribe’ button.

    Thank you,

  41. Well, I will not vote for him in the rain, I will not vote for him on a train; I will not vote for him here or there, I will not vote for him anywhere. That said, I have the sneaky suspicion that, after the primaries, catholicvote.org will be arguing that we have a moral obligation to vote for whomever the Republicans have chosen.

    The task of filling up the blanks I’d rather leave to you. But it really doesn’t matter whom you put upon the list, For they’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed!

  42. This is why I don’t want to be a Catholic they still back in the old times. I’m 73 years old and been a Catholic all my life but for the last two years I stop going to Church. But because of people like you I might never go back.

  43. Shame on you!!!! He is the only one that can beat Hillary and he will stand up for religious liberties. You are endorsing the islamic invasion and abortion culture without a vote for Trump. I am disgusted!

    • In every poll that has been taken to see who wins in a general election, Trump loses by a landslide to either Hillary or Sanders. Look it up. Carson, Rubio and Cruz would beat either of the democrats according to the polls. Trump has consistently shown to poll the worst against the Dems. Look it up.

  44. Gloria Patterson on

    Thanks you for this insight. I have believed like this the whole time and wondered if anyone agreed with me.
    People, do you want a person to be president of our country that calls people names and is so ME, ME, I am great, I am the best. Anyone so self centered is not a good candidate for the president of the US in my opinion.

  45. I would love to see your point by point condemnation of Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama. Let’s stack all those up together and see which is lesser of all the evils.

  46. I’m not a fan of trump but if the writer of this article, whomever you are, was well reasoned and true to him or herself, the title would read:

    NOT. ANYONE.

    It talks about honesty, integrity, good morals, Adultery, etc.

    Every single candidate lies, and most would cheat to get elected, plenty of them are or have been adulterers.

    On illegal immigration the article says “Those who rightfully want to solve the problem of illegal immigration deserve more than crowd pleasing platitudes.”

    Yeah, well, platitudes are all you hear on this subject from every candidate. Want the immigrant vote, then be compassionate and tell how you will let them all stay. Want the conservative vote, let it be known you will get rid of the illegals or make it more difficult for them to stay..

    No, the anonymous author is just a Trump hater and that’s ok, but they should be more honest about it and not pretend it’s a religious ideology based decision.

  47. Before your writer starts casting stones maybe they ought to take a good look at why over 40% of Catholics voted for Obama, why many support gay marriage and think abortion is okay. I try living my life as a faithful Catholic by trying my best to live by biblical standards and embracing the church’s teachings. I am a Trump supporter and volunteer who believes God can and will use anyone He pleases to accomplish the task.

    • Yes, God can choose anyone he chooses… but if we finally have someone who fits all the criteria of someone we have been praying for, for so long, shouldn’t we vote for them instead of Mr. Trump who has just held every different position on every issue showing himself to be completely untrustworthy? Ted Cruz is the man we have been praying for.

  48. The Greatest Generation, those who survived the depression and WWII, were known for enduring, sacrificing and sharing. They ate less, gave more and set aside luxuries they couldn’t afford. Donald Trump represents conspicuous consumerism, arrogance and isolation. He promotes with many Republicans that we should fear each other and fear those who differ from the WASP American stereotype. Americans have armed themselves against immigrants, the poor and the government. This is not the path to greatness, but anarchy.

  49. Too many libs running Catholic orgs. Like or love Trump he will do what is best for the country and not be politically correct.

    Sorry, he is the only shot we have to beat the Dems. I have lived in the European hell that atheism has brought, and the mass migrations of the Islamists. You don’t want that here.

    • In every poll that has been taken to see who wins in a general election, Trump loses by a landslide to either Hillary or Sanders. Look it up. Carson, Rubio and Cruz would beat either of the democrats according to the polls. Trump has consistently shown to poll the worst against the Dems. Look it up.

  50. You don’t want Trump. Then give me someone else to vote for. I don’t see any good choices. I would love to see someone that would turn things around and make us a great nation again but I just don’t see anyone!

  51. If you are using a .org URL then you are using a tax-exempt status to attack a political candidate in violation of tax laws. You should cease and desist these illegal and defamatory acts immediately.

    • I don’t think you understand how .org works. Look at TedCruz.org for example. It is his own website and he can both represent himself and attack others if he chooses to on that website.

  52. And how many Catholics have been removed from their churches for molesting children ? What has that cost the church’s ? I would call that bad business. You can’t fix the church, how can you say Trump is bad for us. Never heard of him molesting children. As a catholic , your story is just wrong. Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house!

  53. When you get your Catholic Priests and Nuns to stop voting Democrat then you can start demanding us Catholic Republicans vote to your liking otherwise don’t throw stones from your glass house.

  54. Terribly false article.

    I read Art of The Deal. As a married man, there were no brags about bedding women, let alone married women.

    John McCain’s fellow prisoners are the source of Mr. Trump’s comments. His captors called him “The Songbird” because he would snitch on all his fellow prisoners to escape torture and gain favor. He broke at least one of his arms when he ejected because he failed to “tuck”. Not my definition of a hero.

    Reminder: Reagan was a Democrat before 1962. Obama was anti-gay until just recently. Mr. Trump’s ideas on any number of issues are posted to his web site and are in complete agreement with the Constitution. Mary Magdalene, Moses, David, and so forth.

    Many other issues are argumentative and ideology based not theology based.

    I am surprised that your editors allowed this . . .

    • Here’s the exact quote from Art of the Deal (which I don’t blame you for having forgotten):
      “If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller.”

      • My mistake: that quote comes from his sequel “Are of the Comeback,” so your memory is correct. But the article is essentially accurate–Trump bragged about infidelity in a book–whereas you are in denial. Mary Magdalene and David didn’t brag about their adultery decades later, they repented of it publicly.

  55. Brian,
    As a Catholic, I believe in forgiveness and the willingness to change. Now, Mr. Trump is not Pope and has a lot of skeletons in his closet, but please be optimistic about his intentions for our country. If someone like Mary Magdalene was running for president. Would you speak in the same matter. Of course, I am no lawyer, but your comment about Trump “paying off politician” is opinion and false. If this was true, he would be in prison not debating for the Presidency. Lastly, trust in God to Guide your vote because we truly do not know who is the “Wolf in Sheep’s clothing”. Thank you for your time.

  56. The most concerning thing to me is the response Mr Trump gave regarding his sister being a good selection for the Supreme Court. Are you kidding me?

    If your voting for Trump, you are getting someone who will shake things up but not the way you think.

  57. As you see everyone has an opinion, here’s mine. I’ve made up my mine who I am going to Vote for.The fact that Mr. Trump is so sure that “he’s got this in the bag” and disrespected the fine people and the great State of Iowa by not showing up, for me. he’s no longer in the running for the High Office of “President of the United States of America. Now that’s my opinion, now the people of this great Country will have their say in the following months. Let me say one more thing, “PLEASE’, who or whom you decide to vote for make sure they are worthy of this High office. I wish all of you that read this much luck in your decision.
    Gregg Mundy USN/Vet

    • Patricia Houck on

      Shame on you Gregg he is the only one who supports veterans 100% way before he was running for president and always care about our armed forced and veterans, what did obama has done for you ? nothing but becoming a third class citizen with questionable behaviors for Trump Veterans are heroes and you condemn him because he did not show up for a set up with a stupid woman who has an agenda? In fact he respected the Iowa people not giving them the chance of making a circus from something as serious as this debate!

  58. Democracy DOES NOT WORK!!! it was already decided when the current present president was elected, who the NEXT president would be. Whoever wins has been bought and paid for will do the bidding of the REAL GOVENMENT OF THE U.S., which is so powerful, they can manipulate everyone and everything!

    Donald Trump is a new act completely. Let’s say he supports all that you say in you article, at best, he would by no worse that what exists now! He has really rocked the boat and has done what I thought was impossible, and that is to wake up all you Americans.

    I am not an American but if I were, I would vote forTrump

  59. I cannot get over all of the folks drinking Trump’s Kool Aid. Based upon his lengthy past, those who trust him have little common sense.

  60. Wow, people love Trump and think he would be a “wonderful” president, but hardly anyone, out of all the posted pro-Trump comments, seems able to answer the points CV brings up. Practical smarts, Trump has plenty of…..that is not the question. What is at stake is PRINCIPLE. You cannot be a good president without being principled…or a good anything, for that matter…..is that such a foreign concept? WHAT ARE HIS PRINCIPLES?
    Just because he can win does not make him a good potential president! It has been so long since we had statesmen in office rather than politicians, nobody knows what a principled leader looks like anymore….. If you can show me how he follows natural-law and divine-law-based principles, then you can complain about “hatchet jobs” and “bias,” but until then, Trump’s critics are right to criticize him.

  61. Some of these comments are way off base. Seek you facts from recorded statements from various sources not a candidates website. Anyone can say anything about themselfs. Find the proof. What they endorsed, what they gave money too, where they took a stand on national interviews and seek Thierry accountability to their words. The article never demanded that Catholics not vote for Trump. It simply laid out its position for consideration on Trumps past behavior. He’s not the only flip flop per in business or politics. And while Trump may have American business success and continues tomwork. He started out with 100,000 from his father to get into business. That’s a far cry from a self made business man. Vote for him or don’t but please people research on your own from multiple public records and sources. Stop having a high school “I heard this and paid 15 seconds of attention to it so it must be true.” We’re adults do more research on your possible president than you did for your car, home or computer . Please

  62. Elvira F. Hasty, PhD on

    Vote against Trump has nothing to do with morality but as usual, MONEY. The Catholic Church is receiving millions of dollars to help those poor illegal aliens and “refugees.” Trump is the only candidate that would put a stop to this madness.

    The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has announced a $350 million “funding opportunity” for residential care providers of the thousands of illegal minors crossing the U.S.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/catholic-charities-is-expanding-its-taxpayer-funded-illegal-alien-services

    Despite the apparent bad feeling from the Catholic church toward the Obama administration regarding the birth control dust-up, money makes those disagreements disappear. After all, Catholic Charities gets billions of taxpayer dollars for refugee resettlement and general immigration services, which puts it into the category of a smallish government agency. For example, in 2010 62 percent of Catholic Charities’ budget was funded by the unwilling taxpayer. The feds and the Catholic bishops are partners.

    Read other links:

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/religious-charities-profit-from-open-borders/

    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=896853

    http://arthur-government.blogspot.com/2014/07/house-funding-for-illegal-immigrants.html

    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-church-facilitates-foreign-invasion/

    • Elvira ,
      You are 100% right!!!
      There has been an infiltration of socialist/communists in the Church, USgovernment, and in the schools. They are hell bent on trying to destroy the Catholic Church and this country. They are attacking Mr. Trump because he is speaking out forcefully against this corruption in our government. The global Socialist Marxists here and in other countries hate and fear him for what he is doing by waking up and energizing the good and patriotic Americans. I have a friend that lives in Europe who likes Trump a lot!! Catholic Vote needs to wake up because they are being used by these traitorous bishops and clergy.

  63. So far no one has mentioned anyone beyond the current front-runners (of both parties.) Has anyone considered John Kasich? He did a masterful job in Congress, is now a successful governor and falls right of center on the political spectrum. (He would also be the first President of Slavic ethnicity…)

    Why could he not be elected or otherwise be disqualified for the job? (Well, aside from the fact he gets little “buzz” from the media.) And with that, how about Marco or Chris Christie for VP? Your thoughts on all this, folks…

    May the Lord grant just peace and righteousness to the Republic!

  64. Deacon Paul Lippard on

    When Donald Trump suggested that we should bar all Moslems from coming into our country, and other Republicans have suggested that we round up all the Moslems and put them into one giant Muslem ghetto, my heart sank. Really? As a Catholic, I believe in religious freedom. As an American, I believe in religious freedom. This goes against some of my deepest convictions.

    • Patricia Houck on

      Yes and you know what Muslims are going to put a gun in our head and we should not say anything because we are Christians, well no I do love my daughters and I will not let them suffer under those backwards criminals because we need to be politically correct or good Christian, enough is enough under obama!

  65. For shame CV. You are no better than the uninformed voter. With the exception of Trumps Immigration policy CV simply repeats the false media myths and lies. CVs advice on Trump is totally unreliable. CV didn’t even take the time to check the information accuracy or truthfulness. Readers, ignore CV. Trump is our only hope to save our country. With the exception of Fiorina and Dr. Carson who are just NOT QUALIFIED, all the other candidates including the only conservative, Ted Cruz, have been in the Congress and have NOT REPRESENTED US or made any difference because they are in with the Democrats. So far the only anti Trump arguments you hear from people is some dislike of one of his personality traits. By the way some of those traits are precisely why we need someone like him to get our work done as the Congress has not. So do this. If you are a Republican VOTE for Trump in the primaries and make him the GOP nominee for President. If you are not a Republican vote for TRUMP for President in the November elections. Then you stay on his case about the things you voted for him about. Voting for someone and not following up is NOT AN OPTION. That is exactly why we are in this mess. If Trump doesn’t come through, fire him in 4 years but right now, this minute, he has stepped up to the problems with solutions that will work. Solutions that not one of the other candidates from either party have offered.

  66. We aren’t electing the best Pastor of all-time or even just a Pastor – He’s our commander in chief, have you ever read about King Cyrus, clearly anointed by God to lead a nation and help Christians to live out their calling. Good food thought.

  67. This article about Trump needs another for the other Candidates.
    Should I vote for Hillary instead??
    We are at war, economically culturallyand spiritually. Economically and Culturally with Mexico, Europe and the Middle East and other countries and China especially for taking our jobs.
    If we lose this economic and culture war then America is finished and all our pro life rights will be gone to satisfy the bleak consequences of communist or other totalitarian government.
    We need to pray and continue to promote our Pro Life Agenda in the meantime.

  68. I don’t believe that I would throw Trump away just because he included some locker room talk in his book. After all, the Supreme Court, just recently, issued decisions on gay marriage and suing Christian cake bakers, that would make the citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah blush.

    Who are the “other good candidates this author is referencing?–Marco “Gang of 8” Rubio?, Ted “the Canadian and triple the H-1B visas” Cruz?, Jeb “Act of Love” Bush?

  69. Just unsubscribed from emails from this site. Trump will win NH and SC big. He was always going to finish first or second in Iowa no news to see. Go Trump!

  70. Catholics are just like Protestants now. Waiting on a King to come and set up a kingdom for a 1000 years. So go ahead and play your Trump Card! For me, I’m going to keep my eyes on the Eucharist!

    • A “King” ? I believe that will be Cruz and many of his supporters. Have you heard of his father’s Protestant sect that he is pastor of? You should check it out. The Sanders and Hillary supporters want a global socialist utopia. Rubio, Bush, Christi and Republican establishment and their supporters are paid off and being used by these global socialists. There are some very mislead Catholics usually in Traditional Catholic circles sadly that believe in monarchism and 1,000 year rule etc.., but those people usually don’t vote.. in fact they are very anti- American for the most part. They need to get rid of their toy castles or move to Europe. Yes we should all keep our eyes on the Most Holy Eucharist and vote for the the person who has the best chance in giving us a chance on stoping this global socialist Marxist takeover of our country.

      • Susannah you’ve brightened my day with your awareness. It gets worse…Cruz and his wife, Heidi, are members of the traitorous Council on Foreign Relations. Others need to be educated this the is the One World Rule. They are called the Father and Mother of the North American Union. Ted Cruz is actually pro-Immigration Amnesty; He is a homosexual supporter and recently met privately with gay billionaires in New York City. A fake conservative, he is supported by Jewish radicals, including Alan Dershowitz and the billionaire Koch brothers. He is secretly associated with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and former House Speaker John Boehner.
        Rubio, like Obama, is backed and funded by George Soros, who’s organization also lobbied for Rubio’s legislation to issue 33 million green cards to foreign nationals in the span of a single decade.

  71. I am a Catholic traditionalist who supports Donald Trump because I don’t want our grandchildren bowing down to Allah 5 times a day. That is the most important issue.

  72. I support trump because I feel that the media twists much of what he says at times. Has he said some questionable stuff, yes he has, but so has every other candidate. He is the only one who has not been bought out, has a pretty good grasp on issues going on national, and internationally. He claims to be pro life, and is probably one of the better pro life candidates that have a good chance at getting elected. Life is number 1 on my list. You can say that he wants to help us out, but he wants to have our country be socialist. The church and her wisdom has condemned socialism, and he is pro choice in about every way possible. So Trump 2016.

  73. On Wednesday I listened to Immaculate Heart Radio Phoenix AM1310 with guest Brian Berg and was dumbfounded. He used every tactic possible to manipulate, distort the accountability of Donald Trump. Why is a man who slanders and bears false witness allowed to represent the Catholic Church? Mr. Berg does not have the aptitude to solicit choices concerning political analogy. Why is his target Donald Trump? Trump and Huckabee (who has now suspended his campaign) are the only 2 candidates from either party not involved with Secret Societies. Even today the Roman Catholic church Canon Law reads: “A person who joins an association which plots against the Church is to be punished with a just penalty; and a person who promotes or directs an association of this kind is to be punished, although now not excomunication , but with an interdict”. It’s apparant Berg supports Freemasonry and those involved in destroying Christianity.

  74. The Clinton’s and Bush’s are both heavily involved in Freemasonry and Skull and Crossbones. Cruz and Rubio pledge allegiance with Hispanic Freemasons. Rubio is a former Mormon which is a Masonic cult. Open your eyes and think about who endorses each Candidate. Sarah Palin (a strong Christian Conservative), Jesse Ventura (a conservative who despises Secret Society involvement), Sheriff Joe Arpaio (Christian Conservation who stands for the Constitution) all endorse Donald Trump. The biggest endorsement for Ted Cruz is Glenn Beck, the radio personality who is a Mormon, Freemason and Skull and Crossbones. Freemason candidate Santorum has now dropped and endorses Rubio. Is everybody aware Freemasonry worships Lucifer, Satan? This transcends into the Illuminati, New World Order, the one world rule where all citizensare controlled by government. Our allegiance needs to remain to the Holy Trinity..God our Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Those like Brian Bert who convincingly divert truth need to be exposed and removed.

  75. wow!!! My only hope, now is that CV has other authors write similar honest pieces about every other candidate who is in this race. It will leave us with NO suitable candidate for whom to cast a vote. If we are only measuring candidates by their “sin record” we will literally have NO ONE acceptable to be the leader of the free world.

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  76. So who do you want? Let me guess…. Hillary or Bernie. A crook & a lair or a socialist that wants to make us all equally poor and only relay on government to do everything for us.

    In a perfect world, no Trump would not be the best choice; however, we do not live in a perfect world and we can only play the hand that we are dealt. Cruz I don’t think that he can deliver at this time. Rubio? He cannot stand up to a lair like Hilary and I doubt Cruz can either. They will be expected to play by the book, while Hilary will do everything in her power to Lie, Cheat and Steal this election, much like Obama did.

    Obama, “you can’t asked college transcripts, birth certificate, college grants, tenure at any of the university that I ever taught at.” Enough is enough and Hillary is doing the same thing. Do not talk to me about my emails, Benghazi, the Clinton foundation, possible illegal activity between my foundation and foreign donors that looks like payoffs. Only one that can stand up to this witch is Trump. If nominated, he will get my vote. Not because who he is, but because he can slowdown and maybe reverse some of the damage done over the past 20 years by democratic presidents and congress.

  77. Is this the same Catholic Church which breaks the laws of our nation and encourages illegals to break our laws? Who provides places to live and finds jobs for them?
    Not for our veterans who have fought for our freedoms but anyone who sneaks into this country regardless of country of origin — friendly to the US or not?? You make trump look better and better (though he would not be my first choice)
    Stop helping the illegal immigrant and use our money to help citizens in the US who need a hand up. Go into any city in this country and you will find needy people. No eyed to import them!

  78. Why has my church been silent on the ‘abortion and birth control on demand and free’ from the democrats? In their platform, no less! Remember that they booed GOD at their last convention. Short memories I fear

  79. Not greedy and arrogant Trump and his wife “the porno lady who talks about having sex with Trump on public radio”, the Marxist Sanders, and “the crook” Clinton. None of them are fit to be president. We do not need any more presidents who are in mortal sin leading the way to hell. How far this country has fallen in way of morals. The naked truth is always better than the best dressed lie.

  80. Almost to much to take in . Too much to read. I will listen to all and trust my God and my own judgement. Will keep an open mind. God help us all. Peace

  81. I like Ted Cruz much better than Trump. But if the choice is Trump versus Sanders or Clinton, I will definitely vote for Trump. I can’t vote for people that want to run this country to the ground and who support abortions.

  82. For years I have fought our bishops and priests to allow us to place CV Voter’s Guides in our churches. Last week I got an email from CV that was the most vile, despicable hit-piece I have ever read, slandering Trump. At that time I was on the fence between Rubio and Cruz. This is not what one would expect from a group calling themselves Christian. As far as I am concerned, they are no better or worse than a grocery store check-out counter tabloid. I am now for the Donald J. Trump.

  83. I am more than sick of the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church in politics. Sure, endorse Obama so you don’t look like a racist, and to look ‘cool’, but ignore the fact that he not only supports abortion to the point of granting Planned Parenthood our taxpayer money to pay for abortions, but he also is the ‘savior’ of all those who hate us and mock our religion. Now, of course, the Church is telling us not to vote for Trump, who actually supports many Catholic beliefs, and would keep us safe. I have been a devout Catholic for all of my life, but not supporting Trump in this election is the equivalent of the many Jews I know who voted for Obama, because it was the cool thing to do. Obama, the same man who made the nuke deal with Iran , a country who dreams of destroying the birthplace of our Lord. The Catholic Church was once respected and made itself heard, now it is just a bunch of men hiding and going with the trends, trying not be unpopular in sacrifice for our beliefs. I pray that I have reached some of my fellow worshipers. May God bless you all, and may God bless Donald Trump.

  84. Why would anyone of you vote for a liar, thief, and if the truth be known he’s more than likely broken all of the 10 commandments!

  85. I do not think people understand what the mood of the country is. Democrats are socialists, their media allies are liars, Republicans are discredited and Conservatives don’t accomplish anything. In walks a businessman with money. Most people in America are in business. Business is practical and no nonsense. You either produce or you fail. Washington fails all the time and its the same old same old. People are tired and scared. In walks a businessman that is practical, that they can relate to and who talks their language. It does not matter what he is for or against – Americans today are only concerned about making America great again. That is why he will win.

    • “Business” is also voluntary servitude between two people. It’s a voluntary exchange which in theory benefits both parties. And, again, it is VOLUNTARY.

      Socialism is charity at gunpoint, and results in MORE poor than other economic systems. There is certainly no Christian commandment to “maximize the amount of Poor™”. I honestly want everyone to have a higher standard of living, no exceptions. But that’s not what socialism or corrupt large government statism achieves.

      And the media cherry picks from the Pope, but hopefully Catholics are aware that Pope Francis, as seen from outside the Catholic Church, is portrayed as a left wing communist.

  86. This pretty much confirms my conclusions that not becoming Catholic was the correct response. And in saying that, I confess to being a YUUUGE fan of St. Thomas Aquinas and his philosophy. There’s not to be seen much of that in today’s Vatican. But, for many reasons, the Pope is a complete disincentive to becoming Catholic for me, especially this Pope.

    1) There is an objective morality. Anyone familiar with this from Christian apologetics will agree. There are also objective laws about mathematics and physics which we can agree. But what confuses the laity the most, and apparently completely escapes the Pope and the Vatican, is that there are objective principles of economics. And, given the concern with The Church™ for The Poor™, you’d think that practically speaking, the Pope would not present himself as so left-leaning or socialist.
    a) Has he declared Castro a non-Christian? He’s not only had mistresses, he’s had people murdered and imprisoned, yet the Pope says little.
    b) The Pope seems to think it is immoral to “build a wall”. Practically speaking, God made the entire world, and you can’t move 3 billion people to the US for welfare simply because their governments are too corrupt and married to communistic, corruptocracies or socialistic ideology to correct their own problems. Where is the Pope on this? Has he “determined” that the President of Mexico “is not Christian”? Rape, corruption, and poor economic judgment abound in Mexico and most South American countries. Nothing but border blessings and minor lip service from the Pope on these issues. But build a wall like stands protecting the Vatican City, and you’re “not Christian™”. Hogwash.
    c) 50% of Catholics supported Obama in 2012, proving that they have a very odd way of prioritizing “non-negotiable” political qualifications. 48% supported Romney, a Mormon.

    I’ve studied Philosophy, and have studied Aquinas (as well a layman can), and I’ve come to the conclusion I’d be an outcast among many Catholic circles. The Catholic Church, and in particular, the Pope, has done the Church a YUUUGE disservice this time. They picked the exact wrong fight.

  87. I notice whether it’s the United States border or the migrant situation in Europe that the Roman Catholic Church insists that Western Nations take in millions of migrants from the developing world. The Church claims to advocate for the dignity of each human being but a big part of living a dignified life is living in a community. Whether these communities are neighborhoods, towns, or whole nations no group of people should be required to take in another group of people. People overwhelmingly prefer to live in communities with people like themselves. In fact, studies have shown over and over that increased diversity actually lowers social cohesion.

    I can understand why the Church doesn’t support border security on America’s Southern Border. The Church sees Latinos as the future of the Church in the United States and is only looking out for its organizational interests (like big agriculture or the meat packing industry). But the migrant situation in Europe is another story. Flooding Europe with Muslim migrants, of mostly fighting age men, is inimical to the Church’s organizational future. I notice the Church likes to site Exodus 22:21 when defending its position on forced migration. In this case the Church is worse than even the evangelicals in taking a verse out of context. Here it is:

    “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

    This verse means if someone comes to your camp or town or you come along a stranger on the road that you shouldn’t rob or beat him. It means if a sojourner needs a place for the night that you should at least offer him your stable to sleep in and toss him yesterday’s bread. This expectation of offering food and lodging to a stranger passing through can be found in many cultures. It has nothing to do with taking in huge numbers of people and being forced-integrated with them. If the ancient Israelites were forced-integrated with the peoples surrounding them there would have been no Israelites over time.

    The Roman Catholic Church (and the others too Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians, etc.) need to stop using the virtue of Christian charity as a pretext to carry out the globalist agenda. Human beings are social creatures and the choice in community is nearly as important as whom we chose to make a family with. Although I suppose it’s a matter of time before the Church and her globalist allies start forcing families to take in people as well?

  88. None of the candidates have morals or good character. It’s like picking the cleanest turd out of a bucket of manure.

  89. Why would Americans be upset with government?

    I just don’t get it: Legalized torture, legalized kidnappings, legalized financial fraud, legalized war crimes, legalized massive surveillance of absolutely everyone & everything, a legalized system of privately run Prisons-For-Profit, legalized market data manipulation, legalized highway robbery (aka Civil Asset Forfeitures), legalized secret FISA courts that use legalized secret interpretations of law to issue legalized secret warrants that no one will ever know about thanks to legalized secret gag orders, legalized police brutality, legalized drone bombings of children playing soccer on some beach 7422 miles away from here, legalized military invasions of foreign nations based on false pretenses & fabricated evidence, legalized benefits for illegal immigrants, legalized purposeful dumbing-down of the entire national educational system, legalized usury, legalized bail-outs of failed private corporations at public expense, a completely corrupt judiciary operating a two-tier ‘justice’ system, legalized assassinations of 16 year old U.S. citizens with no judicial review whatsoever (Abdulrahman al-Awlaki), a completely corrupt legislative arm, a completely corrupt & ineffectual president who seems to believe he possesses dictatorial powers, a completely corrupt and subservient news media that only reports what it is told/allowed to report, legalized blacklists, legalized censorship, complete elimination of Constitutional Rule of Law and legalized forcing of the population into buying worthless overpriced “healthcare” plans practically at gunpoint.

    What’s NOT to love?

    TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!,, ,,at least he will be different
    The others havent done such a ”great” job,,,,,, ya know?

  90. Thank God this group does NOTrepresent the millions of Catholics that DO support Donald Trump. What patriarchal crap to push your views about Trump as if they are condoned by the Pope.

    To argue that Trump is not a leader who can be trusted, you point out his moral failings. The whole church is filled with souls that have failed, hence the need for the church. Trump left his wife’s. Thousands of Priests molested children. Perhaps we should focus on cleaning up the church before pointing out the failings of a presidential candidate.

    Again, you judge Trump because he is a friend of Hillary? The entire political system is corrupt and he has the guts to condemn it and to say he is going to stand up to it, the entire system attacks him for it, and you have the nerve to say he isn’t to be trusted?

    You say he will break laws to get things done. Proof??? Is it because he is a billionaire? Does that make the church a gangster as well for it is 10,000 times richer than Trump.

    You bash him for bankruptcies. You obviously have never run a successful business. The average millionaire has been bankrupted 7 times on their way to becoming successful. It is called risk taking. And Trump is a billionaire. It comes with the territory.

    You point out Trump’s immigration solution as unrealistic while perhaps over 30 million illegal immigrants continue to suck billions out of the welfare economy. He is the first presidential candidate that promises to fight and yet you act holier than thou?

    You say that Trump isn’t going to fight because he has no principles, yet you join a bunch of self protecting establishment politicians in saying so.

    This article is beneath the dignity and holiness of the Catholic Church and makes you out to be a hit man for internationalists who want to destroy America. You have been found out by your words.

  91. Just received this informative article from my faithful Catholic friend in Palm Springs, CA.
    Subject: Trump: What They All Fear Most

    Love or hate The Donald? Read this

    Maybe what Bennett says is true. All of what’s below is certainly food for thought, especiallywhen you realize how little has been done to thwart Obama’s policies. Those inside the beltway, no matter what party they belong to, seem to be ‘helpless’ and they make you believe they’re trying their hardest. Read on:………….

    DONALD TRUMP: WHAT THEY ALL FEAR MOST!

    WILLIAM BENNETT, November 8, 2015

    This will take a few minutes to read, but invest the time. It is enlightening. If true it explains many things we’ve been worried about.

    William J. Bennett, host of ‘Bill Bennett’s Morning in America’ Show is one of America’s most important, influential and respected voices on cultural, political, and education issues. Bill Bennett – what he said:

    Interesting take on Trump……….

    They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump. Don’t be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.

    It’s about the unholy dynamics between big government, big business, and big media. They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it’s in all of their interests to protect one another. It’s one for all and all for one.

    It’s a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich – everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We’re the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media, and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.

    Donald Trump can self-fund. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business, and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.

    It’s no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. It’s because most of the other politicians are part of the ‘old boys club’. They talk big, but they won’t change a thing. They are all beholden to big-money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations . . . like Big Pharma or Big Oil.

    Or they are owned lock, stock and barrel by foreigners, like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations.

    These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But there’s one man who isn’t beholden to anyone. There’s one man who doesn’t need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Auto Workers, or the teachers union, or the Service Employees International Union, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign.

    Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn’t need anyone’s help. That means he doesn’t care what the media says. He doesn’t care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat to those people. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters.

    Don’t you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don’t you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don’t you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet has never tried to de-fund Obamacare or Obama’s clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right? First, many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs, or secretly gay, or stealing taxpayer money, the National Security Agency knows everything.

    Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money from his own bank account. The NSA, the SEC, the IRS, and all the other three-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political leader. They surveil everything. Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called racists . . . so they are scared to ever criticize Obama or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment. Fourth, why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you’re a good boy, you’ve got a $5 million-per-year lobbying job waiting. The big-money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose, they win.

    But Trump doesn’t play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice, cozy relationship between big government, big media, and big business. All the rules are out the window if Trump wins the Presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides, but not Trump. Remember: Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama’s birth certificate. He questioned Obama’s college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university. Now, he’s doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do. He’s questioning our relationship with Mexico; he’s questioning why the border is wide open; he’s questioning why no wall has been built across the border; he’s questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests; he’s questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes, yet are not deported; and he’s questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.

    Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick. Good question! I’m certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website. By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion. Trump will ask if Obamacare architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. Trump will investigate Obama’s widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama’s college records. Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election. How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election?

    Obama, the multinational corporations, and the media need to stop Trump. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked, telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Trump could wake a sleeping giant. Trump’s election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute. He will not hesitate. Once Trump gets in and gets a look at ‘the cooked books’ and Obama’s records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked. Holder could wind up in prison. Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money. Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails, or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, or for ‘misplacing’ $6 billion as the head of the State Department, or for lying about Benghazi. The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison.

    Obamacare will be de-funded and dismantled. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.

    Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved. That’s why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. Yes, it’s become open season on Donald Trump. The left and the right are determined to attack his policies, harm his businesses, and, if possible, even keep him out of the coming debates. But they can’t silence him.

    Bill Bennett

  92. The reason I’m voting for Trump is because the Republica, Party has been pandering to pro-life groups for decades, because they know they need the pro-life vote. Yet when someone like Ted Cruz gets in he’s a pariah to them. Cruz is great, but no junior Senator is going to change Washington or influence anything. MONEY MONEY MONEY runs and influences Washington, so when someone like Trump comes along who is not owned by the mega- donor class Washington PANICS. Trump said he’d defund Planned parenthood from any tax money for abortions. That’s more than any other Republican candidate has done for the cause in decades. EVERYBODY cynically complains about the Washington corruption which has taken this country on a special interest spending spree that has taken this country to the brink of economic collapse. Newt Gingrich is right when he said that things have gotten so bad that maybe a figure like Trump is exactly what Washington needs. I rather have someone who brashly speaks his mind than someone who will politely smile and lie to you..

  93. “Reportedly he left his second wife by leaking the news to a NY newspaper and left the headline on the bed for his wife to find.” “Reportedly?” I stopped listening after reading this word. “Reportedly,” when used without a credible and unbiased source, is little more than GOSSIP, which, I believe is a sin.

    Please do not let the word “Catholic” be associated with such “hate Trump with an all consuming passion” sites such as Glen Beck.

    We need strength and wisdom gained by age, uncensored interaction with the world, and battles. I want him to be “greedy for America.” Then, maybe we will get fair trade in the world market. I pray the Lord, and being President will appropriately temper and humble him.

    Peace.

    • Furthermore Vincent, Glen Beck was removed from Fox News for wearing and displaying his “Skull and Bones” belt buckle.

  94. So you would rather vote for the pro abortion/anti catholic democrats, huh…no way Im voting for heathens and lying criminals

  95. I am Catholic to my core. Not only will I be voting for Trump, but I will not vote for anyone, Republican or Democrat, besides Trump this election cycle.

  96. Susan Ford Keller on

    Why the Catholic hierarchy is afraid of Trump: because the Catholic Church in the U.S. gets billions of dollars for their human services programs from the U.S. government = to an amount given to the 43rd ranked state of our 50 states. The Washington Times reported this last year. No religious denomination should be contracting to work as federal contractors. It certainly calls into question whose agenda churches are working to fulfill: God’s, the church hierarchy’s, or the federal government’s.

  97. Trump is now being persecuted for stating abortionists should be prosecuted. And this site elects to endorse a Satanic “New World Order” candidate Cruz. Why not the George Soros funded Kasich? We already have a Lucifer worshiping President Obama. I’m a practicing Catholic Christian who desires Good over Evil…Jesus Christ our Savior over Satan……VOTE for TRUMP!

  98. Excellent article. One giant point you missed. Trump said, in his 70 years of living he has never done anything that would require him to ask God for forgiveness! Of all the crass, nasty and crude things he has said, that seals the deal..proving that he doesn’t know God! The only perfect man I know, was Jesus Christ. Trump is not only a blatant liar, narcissistic, and arrogant, that statement is blasphemous! He will rot in hell for that one! And those who lick the hand that feeds them, will suffer the consequences of their inability to be discerning.

  99. At least tell the truth about him if you want to belittle him-there are, admittedly many things you can use against him.His business acumen is not one of those things.He employs thousands of people and owns some of the best real estate in the world.This makes him more likely to be independent, and care for the state of America, than a typical politician.He does not need to sell us all out like Cruz will, to pay his rent.Rubio is living hand to mouth, fighting for crumbs.Kasich will sell us all out without batting an eye.Do I need to mention Hillary o wise Catholic vote?
    Nobody thinks Trump is Jesus.What we hope is that he will follow through with what he promises, to the best of his ability.His attack on PC has already helped this country.Trump will be destroyed if he fails to follow through whereas everybody else will sail off unscathed, they have nothing to lose by selling us out.Trump cannot pull an Obama on us because his name is a brand, and reputation is a big chunk of his net worth.All Catholics who claim to be pro-life, most do nothing about it, just whine.Dont expect politicians to fight for us on this issue.We need jobs which will save millions of babies.
    Catholics will vote Trump because the only other option is Hillary, and Trump offers the good possibility of possibly being a strong Patriot.

    My prediction is he will win, and we will see how he does from there…

  100. Oh shut the fuck up.Trump is the only honorable candidate out there right now that can restore family values back to this country and make it great again. Killary and Bernie the socialist are just as bad if not worse than Obama. You can’t be Catholic and democrat! The two don’t mix!

  101. Paul Ruther on

    If you are not going to vote for Trump then you should not vote for Hilary either that is to say you cannot vote for either in good conscience. This is like asking, “hemlock or arsenic, which do you prefer?”

    I have a question….how is it that Catholics vote for the “pro-choice” candidate and remain in God’s good grace? That is to say, Catholics that voted for Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Barack Obama are like the driver of the get-a-way car for a bank robbery, while claiming they had nothing to do with the robbery.

  102. If you are Catholic you can’t vote Hillary… you also can’t sit on the sideline and not vote trump…. see Catechism…. did you help or hurt church teaching? As the election approaches many will deny or ignore the clarifications the Pope has made to his unofficial comments 2 years ago. The right to life remains, as it was last election, a non-negotiable…. if a candidate will make them easier or increase the number by their actions and support then you can’t, due to personal opinion, decide some other issue is more important. the catechism has not changed according to our Pope himself. He explains his position in 83 of Amoris Laetitia. (So great is the value of a human life, and so inalienable the right to life of an innocent child growing in the mother’s womb, that no alleged right to one’s own body can justify a decision to terminate that life, which is an end in itself and which can never be considered the “property” of another human being).

    It calls for an informed conscience… that means a conscience in perfect alignment with church teaching, the teaching protected by the Holy Spirit. To do other wise is, as Father Larry likes to say….is to show God where you real love is. It should be with Him first, It is what you confirm each Sunday in Mass by reciting the Creed.

    Since 2 – 4 Supreme Court seats will be appointed by the next President, nothing impacts that topic more. The current court is forcing catholic businesses to provide insurance covering abortion in California…. we know one Presidential Candidate has been recognized for Planned Parenthood’s highest honor for pushing the groups ideas… which do not match Church teaching. The Margaret Sanger award in 2006 went to Hillary Clinton. We also know her record in the Senate. She is proudly pro-choice, literally up until the baby is born.

    “Mother Teresa had just delivered a speech against abortion, and she wanted to talk to me. Mother Teresa was unerringly direct. She disagreed with my views on a woman’s right to choose and told me so.” Source: Living History, by Hillary Rodham Clinton, p.417-418 , Nov 1, 2003.

    We also know the types of people Trump will nominate… pro life… you may say there is a question about if Trump will actually do that… Well, if we know Hillary’s position and how it will affect the right to life and we have a list of the type of people Trump will support, which is the one most likely to NOT be pro-Life… question answered. You get to choose if God or Party is more important. Good news is outside of these appointments congress can hold up any crazy legislation either propose… Only your vote can impact the supreme court nominees…

    Definitely pro-abortion and forced insurance covering abortion or list of pro-life nominees and stated pro-life position….. which is most likely to be in line with Catholic Church teaching?

    Pope Francis: Abortion Is a ‘Crime’ and Never the Solution to Zika Virus
    Abortion ‘is an absolute evil,’ the Holy Father stressed in response to a journalist’s question on his flight back to Rome from Mex…
    ncregister.com

  103. Here we go as Christians throwing the first stone again Focus on the Family James Dobson has endorsed Trump because he has met with him and found out he was led to Christ through evangelist Paula White… He is a baby Christian…
    has the Catholic Church met with Donald Trump to see where he is at and his walk with faith or are you just judging him through the tabloids and not talking to him personally and seeing his heart as God saw his heart…
    I would ask you to meet with him before you pass any judgment and cast any stones do not come across as a religious person casting the first stone until you have seen that person’s heart as Jesus saw your heart before being born again… A sinner before mercy & grace was extended to you as well…

  104. Allan Daniel on

    Not one of your anti-Trump arguments is valid. They are not even arguments. There are merely perceptions born of fear based on nothing but a over-active imagination. Even implying that Clinton could be chosen over Trump is a case of demonic disorientation.

  105. What i don’t understood is if truth be told how you’re no longer really much more smartly-preferred than you may be right now. You’re so intelligent. You already know therefore considerably on the subject of this matter, made me in my opinion imagine it from so many various angles. Its like women and men aren’t interested unless it is one thing to accomplish with Girl gaga! Your personal stuffs great. At all times take care of it up!

  106. John E. Fiarkoski Sr. on

    I recommend everyone get bumper stickers which state: “VOTE SCRIPTURE, NOT PARTY DICTATES”.

  107. Ha. Looks like you painted yourself into a corner this time, didn’t you CatholicVote? At the very least, as Catholics, why not pick someone as our write-in candidate and call it a day. Neither party will represent Catholic values, and to put hope in such is more than foolish, it’s idolatry.

    For those of you who want to do something for the pro-life movement these next four years, go adopt a child who needs a home. You will be doing more for the cause than any president from either party has done in the last 100 years.

  108. Hillary worships Lucifer, you do not represent the Catholic church or the Catholics. I believe your website and your views are Socialist propaganda, you are a plant by the socialist democratic party to tear down Mr. Trump. I am a catholic and I believe you are satan in disguise. Hillary has proven what she can do and that is pure, wholesome, refined lieing. Satan is the great liar you and should know that. Vote Trump 2016!! A true and honest Man.

  109. Kimberlydawn Mostenkirk on

    Is the issue here ONLY pro-choice or pro-life? What about honesty, integrity, morals….Trump has none of these! He has been charged with rape FOUR TIMES that we know of (once with a THEN 13 year old girl!!!) and has aligned himself with Roger Ailes who has been fired from Fox for sexual harassment by over 2 dozen women!!! He has also aligned himself with Bannon who is one of the BEST KNOWN RACIST in the media! What kind of person aligns himself with such horrible examples of misogyny and bigotry? Not to mention the fraud charges, bankruptcies, not paying workers, putting small companies out of business, flip-flopping many times in the course of a day, holding vulgar racist rallies, UGLY PERSONAL ATTACKS ON PEOPLE …..HOW CAN THIS PERSON BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? HOW ON EARTH CAN ANY DECENT PERSON SUPPORT HIM?

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